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Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More
One Peter Five ^ | August 5, 2019 | Timothy Flanders

Posted on 08/07/2019 3:20:08 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: Freeborn
Faith is belief in the absence of proof.

"Proof" as in absolute proof, but not without evidential warrant. While the secular definition is often faith is belief in the absence of evidence, or despite it, that is simply not what is manifest in Scripture. Do i need to show you?

And Elijah took the child, and brought him down out of the chamber into the house, and delivered him unto his mother: and Elijah said, See, thy son liveth. And the woman said to Elijah, Now by this I know that thou art a man of God, and that the word of the Lord in thy mouth is truth. (1 Kings 17:23-24)

Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance [faith] unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. (Acts 17:31)

And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. (1 John 4:14)

And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace: For he mightily convinced the Jews, and that publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ. (Acts 18:27-28)

For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed, Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ. (Romans 15:18-19)

Yet, at some point one must hear and obey the light they have for more light to be salvific:

And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. (Luke 16:31)

581 posted on 08/09/2019 7:30:27 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: ealgeone
You guys treat Holy Writ like it was a contract.

Well...

DUH!!!


Old Contract and New Contract are the main divisions in My bible!

582 posted on 08/09/2019 7:30:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

My apologies.

I just have to wonder why you continually tell me what it says instead of asking why I don’t agree with your assertion.


583 posted on 08/09/2019 7:31:23 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: HarleyD
The prayer posted in #1 is nothing more than a Satanic contrivance and "doctrine of demons" that denigrates the Holiness and intercessory of our Lord Jesus Christ. Is that considered "contempt"? It certainly can't be considered indifference.

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! (Isaiah 5:20)

584 posted on 08/09/2019 7:31:52 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: papertyger
Unfortunately for you, what you think he wrote is not what he actually wrote.

Joh 20:31  But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. 

1Jn_5:13  These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Alrighty then...Clue us in...What did John actually write in those verses???

585 posted on 08/09/2019 7:31:57 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ealgeone
Hey elsie, got any artwork showing how RCs "don't care" how we practice our faith?

Sure do; but there is no one left on this thread that cares.

Any lurker with two or more brain cells to rub together has already abandoned the ship.

I'm outta here; too.

I've had enough of Nyah nyah - yer wrong for one day.

586 posted on 08/09/2019 7:34:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

Yup, my statement was out of a lack of understanding, rather than sarcasm.


587 posted on 08/09/2019 7:34:42 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: All
That said,. i have been waiting to install Windows 10 on a new (home built) PC , thanks and glory be to God, and want to do so tonite, so I should be back in a few hours. Or tomorrow AM, God willing. Carry on believers.
588 posted on 08/09/2019 7:36:15 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
The Word says satan will be released for a time after the 1,000 years. There will be rebellion.

Isn’t it amazing, that Jesus will be physically on the earth, ruling with a rod of iron, and there could be millions, who see him and still don’t believe. But then again, he walked the earth before, and most people didn’t believe him. Why should it be any different, in the millennium? My opinion is, that all those who physically survive the Tribulation, will be gathered, and only true believers will be allowed to enter the kingdom. All unbelievers will be killed by God. No unbelievers will be allowed into the kingdom, and false religions will not be allowed on the earth. Then, live, mortal believers will start having sex again. (oh the horror of it all) 😁 It is some of the children of the believers, who won’t believe, and will rebel. That’s my opinion.

589 posted on 08/09/2019 7:39:01 PM PDT by Mark17 (Master Sgt, US Air Force, retired. Air traffic controller. Father of US Air Force 2nd Lieutenant)
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To: HarleyD; daniel1212
The prayer posted in #1 is nothing more than a Satanic contrivance and "doctrine of demons" that denigrates the Holiness and intercessory of our Lord Jesus Christ. Is that considered "contempt"?

Yes, your statement above is contempt of Our Lord's Mother and Our Lord, Himself.

Thanks for proving the article true.

590 posted on 08/09/2019 7:39:08 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: grey_whiskers
The problem with the wheat and the tares is that everybody thinks *their* denomination is the wheat and everyone else is the tares. *cough*.

No they don't...Christian denominations know their church buildings are filled with wheat AND tares...But we know it is only the wheat that are the Body of Christ...Difference is: Catholics think that every Catholic whether wheat or tare is a member of the Body of Christ, since the Catholic church is the body of Christ...

591 posted on 08/09/2019 7:40:14 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
Alrighty then...Clue us in...What did John actually write in those verses???

Just what they say; why, are you going to tell me what they REALLY mean?

592 posted on 08/09/2019 7:41:42 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: ebb tide

Or lying wonders of demons.... Discernment ebb. Not everything that appears Mira Lou’s is of God.


593 posted on 08/09/2019 7:43:19 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ebb tide
Everybody in Scripture, except for the Blessed Mother, Adam and Eve, had original sin.

Adam and Ever ARE the original sin...

594 posted on 08/09/2019 7:43:38 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ebb tide

so you are on drugs!


595 posted on 08/09/2019 7:45:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Iscool

Correction, I meant born/created with original sin.

Of course Adam and Eve sinned.


596 posted on 08/09/2019 7:47:16 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Mom MD

Not everything that appears miraculous is of God should he....


597 posted on 08/09/2019 7:49:09 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: papertyger
Even if your reading of the passage weren’t eisegetical, where are your other two witnesses?

Well c'mon...You said we are not reading what we are reading...Enlighten us then...

598 posted on 08/09/2019 7:54:54 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: papertyger
Just what they say; why, are you going to tell me what they REALLY mean?

Because they mean what they say...You claimed they don't say what I think they say...So what do they say and what do they mean??? I'd like to know...

599 posted on 08/09/2019 8:02:58 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: daniel1212

Correct me if I am wrong.

The Catholics believe that jesus was God in the the flesh so
therefore believe that Mary is the mother of God.

The Protestants believe Jesus was God in the flesh but deny that
Mary was the mother of God, talk about hypocrictical.

Or is it just stupid?.


600 posted on 08/09/2019 8:08:28 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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