Posted on 08/07/2019 3:20:08 PM PDT by ebb tide
I’m old but not old enough to have written Scripture.
All have sinned and fallen short. That pesky scripture again.....
2nd Time?
By that you mean they had already rebelled with Lucifer and began taking human women as ‘wives’ - in great violation on divine laws?
Which brings us back to the question I posed awhile back that not many even in the pulpits probably ever consider:
Will there be future rebellions post-millennium?
God is bound to create other beings into Eternity, remember He is infinite and if it has happened in the past, it could very well happen in the future.
I have shutdown Bible Studies with that question because it stirs all sorts on angst.
A good thorough reading of Romans 8 proves this beyond a doubt.
OSAS. Some folks can feel free to disagree. A true Saved By The Blood of Jesus Saint will have the most awful existence if they continue living in sin. That much is true.
Why?
...remember He is infinite and if it has happened in the past, it could very well happen in the future.
With God there is no past and no future. Eternity is timelessness.
Time didn't start until "the first day" in Genesis.
Yes, salvation is simple.
By grace through faith.
Believe on Him, put your trust in Him and that's all that is required.
John 1:10-13 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
John 3:3-8 Jesus answered him,“Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
John 3:14-18 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
John 11:25-26 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
Acts 16:27-31 When the jailer woke and saw that the prison doors were open, he drew his sword and was about to kill himself, supposing that the prisoners had escaped. But Paul cried with a loud voice, “Do not harm yourself, for we are all here.” And the jailer called for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear he fell down before Paul and Silas. Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
Romans 10:9-13 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
Do you honestly think God wants us scared all the time, to live in fear?
Is that the kind of God you serve?
*Working out your salvation* is the process of sanctification where the believer, who is already saved, grows to become more and more like Christ.
That process takes time and effort.
But the salvation does not.
You are correct that from our stand point ‘time’ didn’t exist until Day 1 Genesis, however there is a continuum that exists outside of this reality. Probably not measurable with our time standards.
Otherwise, everything would happen at one time.
He uses the word forever in Revelation to describe several future events.
As to “why”?
You can’t box God in. He will do what He will do. Possibilities are endless.
Bears repeating......
That is true. However, there are quite a few things we are not meant to know until we are with Him. Don't worry about it as His extra-terrestrial actions do not affect our salvation.
Wait until we are meant to know.
Affirmative sir.
Was Peter lost when he denied Jesus THREE times?
What was Jesus's response to that?
Jesus says many will try to enter the kingdom but will not be strong enough.
Chapter and verse?
ebb tide: "Protestant" doesn't mean that. "Protestant" means once "saved", always "saved" according to some posters on this forum.
I have yet to see ONE person claim that the word *Protestant* means *Once saved, always saved*.
Your pings to me do NOT prove your claim in post 420.
If she’s wrong, then tell her what’s right.
WAY too many people just lob out *YOU’RE WRONG* and drop out without offering any worthwhile contribution to the discussion.
I’m not going to believe anyone who comes along and says *You’re WRONG! Nyah, nyah, nyah!* without offering what they thing is the right thing. In that case, it’s just an opinion that can’t even be considered valid because the person stating it offers no proof of why they are right or WHAT is right.
If you don’t consider it worth defending what you think is right, then don’t bother trying to convince someone they are wrong with just your say so.
Well, then, it takes a sick mind to say that we need to eat Jesus.
God chose her because she had the right lineage, or pedigree, if you will.
She was in the right place at the right time to fulfill Scripture. It has nothing to do with her being SO SPECIAL that God chose her. God is NOT a respecter of persons and for Him to pick her because of some alleged specialness of hers would cause Him to sin.
Yes it was because ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Mary did not need to be pure to carry Jesus. She simply needed to be a virgin so that prophecy could be fulfilled.
If Mary would have been sinless, she would have been just like Eve...And the Catholics call her the 2nd Eve...Except she would have had to be like Eve before the Fall...No death, no pain; perfect...Presumably she needed this state of being to produce her perfect son, Jesus...
But how perfect was Jesus in the flesh??? He, like Mary aged (unlike Eve)...Jesus experienced pain...And ultimately the flesh of Jesus (Mary's contribution to the life of Jesus) died...Mary had to have corrupted flesh to produce Jesus with a body that could suffer, and die...
Jesus was made in the form of a man with corrupted flesh, just as we are...The Catholic Mary was not made in the form of a human woman...Her flesh was perfect...Her blood was perfect...She couldn't have produced Jesus in that state...That's why God sent Jesus to be born of a human woman...So he could live in a human body of corruption and temptation...
They make these stories up that couldn't possibly be true and then call themselves the one, true church...The Catholics that do start to read and believe the Bible ultimately leave the Catholic religion...
You guys are hilarious!
Y’all make these pronouncements about what God would or wouldn’t do like kids that think they know snowboarding from all their Xbox experience.
You have the Book. Anything beyond that is just arguing with yourselves over whose dad is tougher.
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