Posted on 07/30/2019 10:09:05 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
{Originally posted to the CAMERA website}
If there was any doubt that lies told about the modern state of Israel incite violence against American Jews, it was demolished after the recent appearance of professional Jew-baiter E. Michael Jones on the YouTube channel of Catholics Against Militarism (CAM).
During the interview, Jones, a failed academic who bills himself as being at the “absolute dead center of Catholic tradition,” argued that the deaths of civilians at the “March of Return” riots organized by Hamas logically justifies the murder of Jews in synagogues in the United States. Instead of confronting Jones’s statement for what it was — a naked affirmation of hostility toward Jews in the United States — CAM’s Ellen Finnigan, a writer who graduated from Boston College, responded in numb agreement, saying, “Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense.”
The exchange is on full display in an interview posted on CAM’s YouTube Channel on May 14, 2019. During the interview, Jones takes full advantage of Finnigan’s profound ignorance about the history of antisemitism, the Catholic church’s response to the Holocaust, Jewish opposition to the Iraq war, and the Arab-Israeli conflict. Without challenge, Jones blames, Jews for nearly every aspect of American life and modernity itself that he does not like.
For example, Jones blames American Jews for the American invasion of Iraq in 2003 despite the fact that American Jews showed lower levels of support for the war than the rest of country before the invasion took place. In late 2002, for example, Pew data indicated that 62 percent of the American people supported an invasion of Iraq while only 52 percent of American Jews supported the invasion. Gallup Polls indicated that when the invasion took place in March 2003, 72 percent of the American people supported the war.
He also blamed Israel for the Iraq war even though numerous Israeli security officials warned against an invasion, declaring that Iran was more of a threat and that there was no unified opposition to Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. The criticism became so loud in 2002 that Israel’s Prime Minister Ariel Sharon told his cabinet to keep quiet about the issue.
Prior to the invasion, David Harris, executive director of the American Jewish Committee, warned, “If the war doesn’t go well, there will be those who will try to peddle the time worn theory that we have to look for a scapegoat and Jews have provided a scapegoat for bigots for centuries.”
Harris’s statement proved to be prescient, because it describes Jones’s behavior perfectly. During the interview, he told Finnigan, that he was “furious at the duplicity and mendacity” that led to the war and that this anger “propelled [him] to write The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit.” This book, Jones’s magnum opus, blames Jews for every aspect of modernity and public life in America that he objects to: gay rights, abortion, rock and roll, and even the success of the civil rights movement in the American South.
For Jones, modernity is a Jewish racket.
Legitimizes Poway Shooter’s Logic
Jones’s affirmation that it is legitimate to shoot Jews in America because of Israeli policies in the Holy Land comes at about 37 minutes into the 58-minute video after he declares that if Israel cannot get along with its neighbors, it’s not his problem. This prompts Finnigan to chuckle cynically before Jones declares that Israeli snipers killed Palestinians in cold blood during the “March of Return” protests at the border. Jones states that he saw photographic proof of such killings while he was being interviewed by Henrik Palmgren a few days before. Palmgren is YouTuber who promotes white supremacism, the notion of white genocide, and nasty antisemitic propaganda about the evils of the Talmud. (For some reason, Finnigan, the host of a YouTube show that promotes pacifism, did not see fit to challenge Jones about his appearance on Palmgren’s show.
With its response to the March of Return protests, Jones says, Israel is teaching the world to murder. “You’re teaching bloody instructions,” he says, while pointing his finger. “So if you do that, don’t be surprised if somebody picks up a gun in Poway, California, or in Pittsburgh, and guns down people in a synagogue.”
“Yeah,” Finnigan says in response.
“You’re preaching that violence is the solution to any problem,” he says. “And if you’re justified in doing that to Palestinians, why is this guy [John Earnest] not justified in doing it to Jews? Tell me that. Explain that to me.”
“Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense,” Finnigan responds.
Does Finnigan really think it makes sense to shoot American Jews because of things Israeli soldiers are falsely accused of doing? Does she have any idea how this logic can be applied to other tragedies where civilians are massacred by groups like ISIS?
Is this the type of logic that a Catholic peace organization should affirm?
What is going on at Catholics Against Militarism? Why is it promoting vicious antisemitism on its YouTube channel?
Is demonizing Jews truly the path to peace?
You are careening, now, into Sliding this whole thread. Stop.
You *do* want to argue. It’s not helpful to harangue others.
Well said!
Not arguing. I have many more problems with Catholics than I do with Catholicism. That said I don’t conflate them.
Calling for the murder of Jews in America for what Israel may have done is not protected by the First Amendment.
Of course, imams and mullahs all over the world scream “death to the Jews!” every day, so Mossad would have their plate full trying to take them all out.
Making an example here & there probably works best. Get on Mossad’s radar & spend the rest of your life having someone else start your car.
;^)
Nostra Aetate
Jones is just another left wing racist who calls himself a Catholic.
Thanks.
No one mentioned taking and “credit”. I only recounted the verifiable history of the Bible.
I know of no Catholics who see this pope or any pope as being above reproach or questioning. No one is sinless. That said the world is full of snakes of every stripe and you can no more associate the sins of any clergy with the message of the Church than you can indict all Christendom for the sins of Hitler and Stalin who were nominally Christian.
My first impression was that of a Catholic version of the heretical Steven L Anderson of the New Independent Fundamentalist Baptists.
Satan goes after jews and catholics the hardest. This is why the ones he can lop off the herd can be the worst out there against society.
Who are the vilest pro-aborts? When he snags them, he snags high value ones. Feeds the bigots with their examples against the decent.
I wouldn’t call his words incitement, because no imminent lawless action is likely to occur from old man yelling at clouds, and there’s no way to prove he intends lawless action to result since again, he didn’t didn’t actually call for anyone to be killed. A true threat? No, he’s not threatening to do anything. Fighting words? I don’t see this guy’s video inciting an immediate breach of the peace. Do his words by their very utterance inflict injury? Maybe, but against who precisely? American Jews, Israelis, Synagogue goers, all of the above? American Jews vs. old man yelling at clouds doesn’t seem likely to come to a court near you. And I would add that I think the last is a very dangerous test these days, considering that there are people who firmly believe that someone accidentally not using their preferred “ze,zed,zur” pronouns inflicts injury.
In any event, if he broke the law he should be processed through the American justice system, not murdered by foreign agents.
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