Where Hal Lindsey Went Wrong

Prophecy Questions blog ^ | June 30, 2019 | Charles S. Meek

[MHGinTN]

The Rapture doesn't happen in secret and it occurs before the Tribulation begins. I doubt that CNN will be reporting the event. CNN is a likely source for broadcasting the Great Lie which will be offered to explain away the sudden disappearance of hundreds of millions and disturbances to all graveyards across the planet.

The Lord Christ will descend from the Third Heaven down into the first Heaven to call out His Bride.

[SkyDancer]

Still Three Comings not Two.

[Iscool]

Then there will three comings if the “Rapture” is real; which begs the question: If a devout Christian does not believe in the “Rapture” and the “Rapture” is real or happens, then would they be caught up as the “Rapture” folks believe?

Absolutely...And what a ride it's going to be...

[SkyDancer]

Bible said only two and the first one happened already. Some churches believe the Rapture is a sacrament.

[boatbums]

Though you may have not gone into “depth” about the dating of the book of Revelation, I can see how critical that must be to the validity of much of preterists’ doctrines. I think there is far more evidence for later first century dating than simply relying on one man’s “ambiguous” opinions. Have you also considered them as laid out in the link I provided or did you just stop when you read the part about Irenaeus?

[editor-surveyor]

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Hal never went right.

He needed to grasp what Yeshua really said in John 3.
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[editor-surveyor]

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Stillborn!
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[editor-surveyor]

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Its not just planet Earth that gets zapped, it is the entire space-time universe, which we will not have need for, since we will have been “born again” as Sons in the realm of Yehova.

[editor-surveyor]

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If he says “thus sayeth the Lord Yehova” he is a false prophet.

If he simply shoots of his mouth about his personal belief, he is simply a fool.

[editor-surveyor]

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“Jews” are simply followers of the Pharisee lies. they are lost.

Did you mean Hebrews? or Members of the House of Judah?

[usconservative]

Do I think we are in the end times? 1% chance yes, 99% chance another millennium will pass before things start lining up.

I had this very discussion with a good friend not long ago who I think is far more learned than I am in the Bible. I said I think we're living in the end times. His reponse was that yes, we were living in the end times however it would get a whole lot worse than the time we live in, before the Rature happens.

Thinking back on the conversation he and I had, I think he's right. That frankly, scares the h*ll out of me.

[Iscool]

Or how about the 3 amigos in Daniel’s book who were bound and tossed into a super-heated furnace by King Nebucha-knuclehead? I’m not sure how physically bad some rapture believers expect the tribulation to be but I don’t think it will be worse than hanging out in a furnace. Which was hot enough to burn up the kings men who got close enough to throw those three men of God into it. Yet the three faithful were seen walking about unharmed - and chatting it up with Jesus, no less.

They went thru the fire and lived...They felt no pain...

[boatbums]

Then there will three comings if the “Rapture” is real

I know this has been explained before, but let me repeat...the Rapture/Catching up of the church/Bride of Christ happens in the air - we go up to meet Him in the air. He does not set foot upon the earth. The actual Second Coming will be when Jesus sets foot upon the Mount of Olives.

[Iscool]

Bible said only two and the first one happened already.

Yep, two...Two times Jesus Christ will have planted his feet on the earth...

Some churches believe the Rapture is a sacrament.

Yep...And some churches believe you can have lesbian pastors...

[Iscool]

I had this very discussion with a good friend not long ago who I think is far more learned than I am in the Bible. I said I think we're living in the end times. His reponse was that yes, we were living in the end times however it would get a whole lot worse than the time we live in, before the Rature happens.

Thinking back on the conversation he and I had, I think he's right. That frankly, scares the h*ll out of me.

Possibly, but the world is in a position where things could turn in practically the blink of an eye...And for many Christians in many parts of the world, things are a lot worse...

[boatbums]

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord. Therefore encourage one another with these words. (I Thess. 4:16-18)

[BuddhaBrown]

“...They felt no pain... “

Yes, my point exactly.

The lions could not harm Daniel. The fire could not harm the 3 amigos.

And God, in a single night, wiped out the first born of all families of Egypt from the king on down - even the first born among their animals! Yet no harm to the faithful living in the same physical location.

God does not need to sneak the faithful off somewhere safe and bring us back later when the coast is clear.

I would never suggest anyone is going to perish for believing a theory like the rapture stuff. But certainly I assume you also believe such a feat is not strictly necessary simply to keep us safe. If some folks believe there is separate reason beyond safety, that is another issue up for interpretations I suppose.

[the_daug]

Not so fast.
"Act_23:6  But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men
and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question."

I don't think Paul renounced being a Pharisee. Is he lost too?

[the_daug]

I was trying to be rhetorical.

[MHGinTN]

Jesus does not come to the Earth to call out His bride, so that event is not ‘technically’ a coming to the Earth. But why would you care since you don’t believe in the event at the beginning of the end?