Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
In Captains Courageous, with Spencer Tracey, Freddy Batholomew is a blowhard millionaire's son who is socially, poorly adjusted. He uses his father's incredible wealth, to bully his classmates and even his teacher, but he's roundly disliked, and ostracized. While on an ocean liner, he unsuccessfully tries to impress some other boys by eating 5 ice cream sodas. When he has to throw up, to escape the mocking boys, he runs into a lifeboat area to evade their ridicule while purging his overindulgence, and manages to fall overboard into the ocean.
Instances of people falling overboard into the open ocean are rather commonly reported in the news. Usually they are lost, but if by chance their accidents are observed and a life-preserver is thrown to them, is that the end of the story, do we just say, "oh, well, you have a floatation device, you're okay now"?
No, we have to pull them in. The life-preserver, the lifesaver, is only part of the formula for saving their lives. There is also a rope, which must be attached to the life-preserver, and must be used to finally accomplish their salvation.
Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. But on the man side of the equation, unlike the radical individuality most typified by J.J. Rousseau, we who life the life of Christians do so in communities. But even then, we do not abide as atomistic individualists. We live our Jesus-oriented life in relation to our fellows. "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." Hebrews 10:25.
Jesus' first disciple was his mother, who gave us the total account of his early life and who "treasured these things up in her heart". "A sword will pierce your own soul too, so that the secret thoughts of many hearts might be revealed". On the cross, he gave his mother to John to take in his home, but when you take your master's mother, she takes care of you.
Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery.
And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days.
And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. - Rev 11:19 -- 12:17
She forms the body of Christ. She schools her son's disciples. Those who won't attend her school, remain ignorant.
We are in a time when any merely human institution would be washed away. Our churches are going under the shadow of a new Heresy of Ba'al of Peor, as when the Hebrew people were successfully attacked and overwhelmed through human sexuality. Our churches are now pro-gay and as soon as the civil authority authorizes child sex, they will be indistinguishable from the denizens of the town of Sodom: "Bring them out that we may know them".
Jesus' mother forms the few of the elect who will resist being fooled by the great apostasy. Those who will not avail themselves of the lifeline of Mary, will be lost.
I believe Rev 12:17 refers to Israel, not Mary, but I think many people have pointed this out. Mary and her husband (Joseph, not the Holy Spirit) had sex in their marriage, like all married couples do. Their children are named.
I know this is difficult for the catholic mind to wrap itself around, but it is not impossible to figure out. I am living proof, that a catholic can understand this, since I am an ex catholic. Of course, once I started to understand spiritual concepts, I left the Catholic Church, once and for all. Sorry, but my YOPIOS is never going to agree with your YOPIOS. Since many others have tried to explain this to you, I am scratching my head, trying to figure out why I even bothered to try. Oh well, have a nice eternity. It will last a bit longer than any of us can fully understand.
I dont look for areas we agree on. There are a few, but I look at the BIGGEST area we disagree on. I dont agree with the only doctrine that matters the most, the Catholic plan of salvation.
Yet they continue in their error.
1sr Cor 2:14.
yep.
Gospel of Grace Placemarker
It’s not the first time we’ve seen that type of exegesis from Catholicism.
They flip flop like that on a number of issues when Scripture conflicts with their doctrine
The Infancy Gospel is pure and utter hogwash.
Like pancakes!
...sigh....
2 TIMOTHY 2:15. If anyone cares..
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There's a clear reason it's not met with any clear traces in the first Christian centures...THERE WAS NONE!
I’m told that the reason is that in Roman Catholicism, God is utterly unapproachable, judgmental, and not at all merciful. So they need intermediaries because the direct attention of God is not as a loving Father but as a furious judge.
Now I don’t know how true that is all over the place, but I know it’s true some places.
No...that is supported in Roman Catholic writings.
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Eadmer (1060-1124)
sometimes salvation is quicker if we remember Mary's name then if we invoked the name of the Lord Jesus...[who] does not at once, answer anyone who invokes him, but only does so after just judgment. But if the name of his mother Mary is invoked, her merits intercede so that he is answered even if the merits of him who invoked her do not deserve it. Through her the elements are renewed, the netherworld is healed, the demons are trodden underfoot, men are saved and angels are restored.
Her Son is the Lord and Judge of all men, discerning the merits of the individuals, hence he does not at once answer anyone who invokes him, but does it only after just judgment. But if the name of His Mother be invoked, her merits intercede so that he is answered even if the merits of him who invokes her do not deserve it.
Rachel Fulton, From Judgment to Passion: Devotion to Christ and the Virgin Mary, 800-1200, 246, accessed March 5, 2019, From Judgment to Passion: Devotion to Christ and the Virgin Mary, 800-1200.
sure.. Because the fierce judge who is reluctant to show mercy would become one of the least of us and die a brutal death to reconcile us to Him. It totally fits the narrative. /s
Besides the blasphemous exaltation of Mary I think the worst part of the doctrine is painting our loving Lord who runs to meet us in our sin and disgrace as an aloof judge who needs to be persuaded to give us what He freely purchased on our behalf.
Read Luke 1
He offers the FREE gift of salvation to those who will believe.
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I really believe this emphasis on the "necessity" of Mary for our salvation, praying to Mary, worshiping Mary etc, is one of Satan's greatest deceptions.
Why?
It diminishes the offering of the Cross.
Roman Catholicism doesn't want to appeal to this. So much of Roman Catholicism's Marian dogmas are not found in Luke...nor the New Testament.
Isnt that about the same idea the muzzards have? Islam and Catholicism have something in common. 😁
Islam does teach the Muslim’s salvation is however Allah weighs the scales....unless you die in jihad.
Um, that’s disgusting.
That’s the literal Biblical definition of sorcery.
Ew.
The Bible tells us that for the joy set before Him Christ endured the cross. That joy is eternal fellowship with us. It amazes me that God can find joy in miserable sinners, but that is the transformative power of the cross. Not our works, not to please Mary or any other creature. Just the power of the cross. We are made worthy by His act of redemption and He finds joy in it. Does that sound like a stingy impassive judge? By no means. He rushes to smother us with the riches He has earned for us. What an amazing Savior!
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