Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
In Captains Courageous, with Spencer Tracey, Freddy Batholomew is a blowhard millionaire's son who is socially, poorly adjusted. He uses his father's incredible wealth, to bully his classmates and even his teacher, but he's roundly disliked, and ostracized. While on an ocean liner, he unsuccessfully tries to impress some other boys by eating 5 ice cream sodas. When he has to throw up, to escape the mocking boys, he runs into a lifeboat area to evade their ridicule while purging his overindulgence, and manages to fall overboard into the ocean.
Instances of people falling overboard into the open ocean are rather commonly reported in the news. Usually they are lost, but if by chance their accidents are observed and a life-preserver is thrown to them, is that the end of the story, do we just say, "oh, well, you have a floatation device, you're okay now"?
No, we have to pull them in. The life-preserver, the lifesaver, is only part of the formula for saving their lives. There is also a rope, which must be attached to the life-preserver, and must be used to finally accomplish their salvation.
Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. But on the man side of the equation, unlike the radical individuality most typified by J.J. Rousseau, we who life the life of Christians do so in communities. But even then, we do not abide as atomistic individualists. We live our Jesus-oriented life in relation to our fellows. "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." – Hebrews 10:25.
Jesus' first disciple was his mother, who gave us the total account of his early life and who "treasured these things up in her heart". "A sword will pierce your own soul too, so that the secret thoughts of many hearts might be revealed". On the cross, he gave his mother to John to take in his home, but when you take your master's mother, she takes care of you.
Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery.
And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. …
And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. - Rev 11:19 -- 12:17
She forms the body of Christ. She schools her son's disciples. Those who won't attend her school, remain ignorant.
We are in a time when any merely human institution would be washed away. Our churches are going under the shadow of a new Heresy of Ba'al of Peor, as when the Hebrew people were successfully attacked and overwhelmed through human sexuality. Our churches are now pro-gay and as soon as the civil authority authorizes child sex, they will be indistinguishable from the denizens of the town of Sodom: "Bring them out that we may know them".
Jesus' mother forms the few of the elect who will resist being fooled by the great apostasy. Those who will not avail themselves of the lifeline of Mary, will be lost.
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Semiramis!
Your catechism is wrong because Scripture alludes to no such thing.
So what are those traditions to which Paul was referring?
How do you know they were from Paul?
How do you know they were passed down faithfully and without corruption?
Please cited your sources for verification purposes.
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>> “So what are those traditions to which Paul was referring?” <<
Clearly, the “Appointed Times.”
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Hey, YOU ALL are the ones insisting that Mary is *mother of God*. Period.
If she's the *mother of God* because she's the mother of Jesus and Jesus is God therefore, she's the mother of God (Catholic "logic" for lack of a better term) then if the Father and the Holy Spirit are also god, then she is their mother also.
Congratulations, you have joined Mormonism in believing in a god who is a created being.
Here's a free tip: sola scriptura is not in scripture.
If you won't provide the information requested, it doesn't exist.
Catholics are the ones who believe it. We are under no obligation to prove something we don't believe.
If you can't be bothered to support your claims, then I don't see why anyone should give it any serious consideration.
The vast majority of catholic laity think ‘immaculate conception’ refers to Jesus’ virgin birth...sad and pathetic come to mind
IOW, it doesn’t exist.
Your argument is with God breathed, Holy Spirit inspired Scripture.
1 Timothy 2:5-6 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time.
Party Pooper!
Show us where Mary is named by name in the OT.
Can you add?
120 disciples.
11 apostles.
1 Mary.
Do the math.
So much for all that criticism of YOPIOS as being invalid because all the *interpretations* disagree.
If they were Catholic, they'd all agree on every last point of doctrine, right?
Like about the immaculate conception.
Or whether Vatican 2 is binding on Catholics.
Or whether Francis is a legitimate pope and is required to be submitted to.
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Every party has a pooper thats why we invited you!
Party Pooper!
Party pooper.
“1. Mary’s triune role as co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix, Advocatrix is a reflection of the Three Persons of the Holy TrinitY”
Heresy and not found in Scripture.
Just part of making Mary into an idol and demigoddess.
...Jesus' first disciple was his mother,
Rather stretching the truth. Mary (and Jesus' half brothers and sisters) thought Jesus was crazy.
All it is, is justification for idolatry.
Then so are Curly, Larry and Moe.
Um....No.
The same room where the last supper took place.
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