[aMorePerfectUnion]

“the entire pre-trib nonsense dates to the 1800s.”

I disagree. It dates back to the Apostles and is found in scripture.

Even if we grant your argument about the date, the age of a doctrine means little and is only true if it derives from scripture.

Believing in a pre-trib rapture is not necessary for salvation. Only believing faith in Christ is necessary.

[Cronos]

I disagree. It dates back to the Apostles and is found in scripture.

Can you give any proof that it is found in scriptures to back your statement?

[Cronos]

Even if we grant your argument about the date, the age of a doctrine means little and is only true if it derives from scripture. -- and this is where I say it is not in any way in the books of the Bible, nor derived from it -- but I'm willing to hear your side of how it is with an open mind -- one can always learn