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To: aMorePerfectUnion

God has not revealed the presence of a Heavenly Mother, period! It is only a conjecture or theory, your post or claims are not LDS doctrine. I will only debate doctrine, not conjecture/theory.

So My Question to You: Are you going to believe Christ’s own words in the Bible about his oneness with God as in John 17: 21-24 ....

....or are you going to believe in the Fable that Paul Paul prophsisied about in 2nd Timothy ... of which the most notorious is the Nicene Creed?

I will give you another biblical example which demonstrates the Fable of the Nicene Creed: When Christ was dying on the Cross he called out to God the Father asking why he had abandoned him! Afterwhich he claimed, it is done, into thy hands I commend my spirit. (Matthew 27:45-50)

If God, Christ and the Holy Ghost were just multiple-personalities of the same diety .... God could not have abandoned Christ!!!

Hah! Again proof of your Nicene Fable!!!

Time for you to get with the program and ask God in complete humility and in a reverence ready to completely accept his answer with all the energy of your soul if Jesus Christ is his only Begotten Son, or just an equal third part of his multiple personality identity crisis!

I testify to you, that if you can muster enough humility to accept his will and completely reject your previous belief in ancient christian fables that he will manifest it to you by the power of the Holy Ghost.

But beware, he will only manifest it to you if you are completely honest in your heart and ready to accept ‘full-steam’ his answer to you. Otherwise, he will recognize your duplicity and give you nothing. That is how God and personal revelation works.


267 posted on 04/29/2019 8:19:32 AM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe; aMorePerfectUnion
God has not revealed the presence of a Heavenly Mother, period! It is only a conjecture or theory, your post or claims are not LDS doctrine. I will only debate doctrine, not conjecture/theory.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints teaches that all human beings, male and female, are beloved spirit children of heavenly parents, a Heavenly Father and a Heavenly Mother. This understanding is rooted in scriptural and prophetic teachings about the nature of God, our relationship to Deity, and the godly potential of men and women.1 The doctrine of a Heavenly Mother is a cherished and distinctive belief among Latter-day Saints.2

https://www.lds.org/topics/mother-in-heaven?lang=eng

269 posted on 04/29/2019 8:57:15 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: teppe

Teppe, please answer my questions about what *you* believe...

I do believe the Scriptures, but not the mormonic “see & say” version.

What are your answers??


270 posted on 04/29/2019 9:00:45 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: teppe
 
What Do the Founders
of These Great American Cults
Have in Common?
 
 
Kabbalah - Founded by a former insurance salesman, Phillip Berg
(now known as Rav) - is a Jewish cult, based on "ancient secrets".
 
Scientology - Founded by a former vacuum cleaner salesman,
and frustrated sci-fi writer, L. Ron Hubbard.
 
EST - Founded by a former door-to-door salesman, Werner Erhard
 
"Prophet" Edgar Cayce - a former insurance salesman
 
Mormonism - Founded by a former treasurer-seeker, Joseph Smith
 

283 posted on 04/29/2019 11:24:08 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: teppe
"Josiah Stowell, a Mormonite, being sworn (under oath in court), testified that he positively knew that said Smith never had lied to, or deceived him, and did not believe he ever tried to deceive any body else. The following questions were then asked him, to which he made the replies annexed.

Did Smith ever tell you there was money hid in a certain glass which he mentioned?

Yes.

Did he tell you, you could find it by digging?

Yes.

Did you dig?

Yes.

Did you find any money?

No.

Did he not lie to you then, and deceive you?

No! the money was there, but we did not get quite to it!

How do you know it was there?

Smith said it was!

Addison Austin was next called upon, who testified, that at the very same time that Stowell was digging for money, he, Austin, was in company with said Smith alone, and asked him to tell him honestly whether he could see this money or not.

Smith hesitated some time, but finally replied, "to be candid, between you and me, I cannot, any more than you or any body else; but any way to get a living."

Here, then, we have his own confession, that he was a vile, dishonest impostor.

As regards the testimony of Josiah Stowell, it needs no comment. He swears positively that Smith did not lie to him. So much for a Mormon witness."

http://olivercowdery.com/smithhome/1877Purp.htm

284 posted on 04/29/2019 11:31:07 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: teppe
Again proof of your Nicene Fable!!!

You DO realize; like the rest of us do; that your ranting against the Nicean Creed is a strawman tactic?

It is NOT printed in ANY bible that I am in possession of and the ONLY time I ever hear about it is when a member of The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints brings it up.


In today's lexicon; it would called a nothing burger.

375 posted on 04/29/2019 7:36:31 PM PDT by Elsie
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