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To: Cronos

“Catholics come to Christ - we commune with Him in the Divine Liturgy as well as in other aspects in our lives.”

I meant I’d like to see Catholics come to saving faith in Christ. That they would entrust themselves to Him alone for salvation, and not useless works or rituals, or a church.

That they would have their eyes open to what it means that He and His sacrifice was enough.

That they might have assurance of salvation, and understand what it means to know Him.


17 posted on 01/25/2019 3:24:26 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Sigh, Catholics DO entrust themselves to Christ alone for Salvation. We do not believe that works or rituals save you, Christ saves you.

Salvation as taught by the Church comes from Christ's sacrifice.

God's Grace saves us, we cannot save ourselves. THAT is Church teaching.

Grace is not just God's loving kindness, favor or mercy, but God’s divine life itself, which enables the work of Christ to flow through us. Through Adam, we have been dis-graced and separated from God, and in Christ, we are restored to grace and reconciled to God. Through grace people can become new creations, "partakers of the divine nature."[2 Pet. 1:4]

from The Church point of view, Christ’s sacrifice on the Cross was super-sufficient for our salvation. Salvation comes from Christ’s sacrifice. We cannot save ourselves — our works cannot provide us salvation, not one bit, not a little bit — and that is Church teaching.

A Catholic is not saved by any means other than the Grace of God, in the name of Jesus, His Son who lived, died and rose for our sins to be forgiven thus opening the gates of heaven.

Not ONE Catholic believes that Faith and works gives us salvation. That is utterly wrong and if anyone within or outside the Church has such opinions they should be told it is anathema.

The Council of Trent states: "We are said to be justified by grace because nothing that precedes justification, whether faith or works, merits the grace of justification. For 'if it is by grace, it is no longer by works; otherwise,' as the apostle says, 'grace is no more grace' [Rom. 11:6]" (Decree on Justification 8).

In fact, the Council of Trent condemned anyone who taught that we can save ourselves or who taught even that God helps (not leads) us do what we could do for ourselves. God does it all -- all the saving, the salvation is from Christ's sacrifice on the Cross

Finally, you can read a papal encyclical that clearly states

4. In my first encyclical, in which I set forth the program of my Pontificate, I said that "the Church's fundamental function in every age, and particularly in ours, is to direct man's gaze, to point the awareness and experience of the whole of humanity toward the mystery of Christ."4

The Church's universal mission is born of faith in Jesus Christ, as is stated in our Trinitarian profession of faith: "I believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father.... For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man."5 The redemption event brings salvation to all, "for each one is included in the mystery of the redemption and with each one Christ has united himself forever through this mystery."6 It is only in faith that the Church's mission can be understood and only in faith that it finds its basis.

5. If we go back to the beginnings of the Church, we find a clear affirmation that Christ is the one Savior of all, the only one able to reveal God and lead to God. In reply to the Jewish religious authorities who question the apostles about the healing of the lame man, Peter says: "By the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by him this man is standing before you well.... And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved" (Acts 4:10, 12). This statement, which was made to the Sanhedrin, has a universal value, since for all people-Jews and Gentiles alike -
salvation can only come from Jesus Christ.
If one actually READ Galatians instead of parroting mindlessly after one's handlers, one would see that the 'works' referred to by Paul are, ta-da works of the law, given to Abraham -- Paul is very clear on that. INDEED, all of Galatians , in Chapter 4 goes on about "servituded to the law" OF Abraham, the Mosaic code which is the "works" that Paul refers to.

Salvation as taught by the Church comes from Christ's sacrifice. Peter says: "By the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by him this man is standing before you well.... And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved" (Acts 4:10, 12). This statement, which was made to the Sanhedrin, has a universal value, since for all people-Jews and Gentiles alike - salvation can only come from Jesus Christ.

Works as evidence of faith, just as James says.

That is a Catholic understanding, not that the fruits gain salvation, but faith in Jesus, that compels one to do works that honor and glorify Him, out of love of Him and neighbor

18 posted on 01/25/2019 5:27:03 AM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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