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To: Songcraft; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
To anyone reading this thread who is NOT bigoted, and who is more interested in the "truth", than in trying to score meaningless, "truthless" points in a senseless online argument, here are some links to sources giving some authentic Catholic views and insights pertaining to the Gospel of John, as well as some links to obtain some related resources. "The Gospel of John - Scott Hahn" [includes links for free resources] "Scott Hahn - Books, Journals, Articles" "Scott Hahn" - Home Page "Protestant pastor becomes Catholic: The original 1989 conversion tape of Scott Hahn" [Big Anti-Catholic Turns Catholic - John 3:16]

You mean the rest are also sophists like the bigoted Scott Hahn? See posted material of his refuted on FR , by the mercy and grace of God. Invite him to debate here.

Then you have required notes in official RC Bibles, and many in the NABRE are quite liberal (though not all, and many are good) including as re. the authorship of John:

Other difficulties for any theory of eyewitness authorship of the gospel in its present form are presented by its highly developed theology and by certain elements of its literary style. For instance, some of the wondrous deeds of Jesus have been worked into highly effective dramatic scenes (John 9)

the accuracy of much of the detail of the fourth gospel constitutes a strong argument that the Johannine tradition rests upon the testimony of an eyewitness. Although tradition identified this person as John, the son of Zebedee, most modern scholars find that the evidence does not support this. - http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__PX8.HTM

In any case, your list of converts to Rome is sadly a list of deceived souls none of whom can claim that the RCC is the NT church, since distinctive Catholic teachings are not manifest in the only wholly inspired substantive authoritative record of what the NT church believed (including how they understood the OT and gospels), which is Scripture, especially Acts thru Revelation.

As a former devout practicing RC, who spent about 6 years of never missing a Sunday after I became truly born again, I do know of the different in life and in doctrine btwn her and Biblical evangelical-type faith. Thanks be to God, though i need much more progress in heart.

46 posted on 01/06/2019 7:33:41 PM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212

"See posted material of his refuted on FR"


Now that claim sounds exactly like Humble Hillary!   (She always claimed loudly that she refuted all Trump's arguments too, and that she won all those debates with him, and her claims displayed a similar level of veracity as yours!)         :-)

However, "daniel1212", you are completely missing the point of my post #38.   It was in response to a post that was suggesting that Catholics only read two little sections of the Gospel of John, and my post 38 proved beyond all doubt that that suggestion was completely, 100%, blatantly false.   (That was the point you are completely missing, "daniel1212".   Whether you agree with any of those sources or not is an entirely different question, and is beside the point, but only Satan - the father of lies, and his slithering followers, would agree that those Catholic folks I posted links for never even read the rest of that Gospel of John, since they actually go through the entire Gospel, step by step, in most of their various books and videos listed there, as you can easily check there for yourself in those links.)

P.S. Why do you always "ping" a long list of your "homies" when you are debating someone, "daniel1212"?   It's like a guy going into the ring to challenge a fighter to a fight, but first he has to bring his whole gang into the ring to fight the other guy too, right there alongside of him, (sort of like the way the MS-13 gang does things).   Now, it is plain to see why you might want to do such a thing, to signal like-minded individuals to gang up on someone you disagree with, so that if those others respond to your signal, and join in, posting way too many posts for your opponent to possibly respond to, your side will dominate the volume of words on the issue, and monopolize the space used in a thread.   But, honestly, does that really seem like the honorable, manly thing to do?   If you really have full confidence in what you are saying, be bold, like Peter and Paul, and duke it out man to man. not like some urban street gang, ganging up on some individual!



MS 13 Gang



(Now, for anyone reading this post, here's a youtube clip of the story of a virulently anti-Catholic person who eventually became a Catholic.   "Protestant pastor becomes Catholic: The original 1989 conversion tape of Scott Hahn".)
87 posted on 01/07/2019 7:33:15 PM PST by Songcraft
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