[af_vet_1981]

Wrong, for the context is future, and you can lose something that is yours to take if you fulfil the conditions, thus the warning "Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown." (Revelation 3:11. KJV) And as shown, fruit such as the Philippians were Paul's “joy and crown” (Phil. 4:1) but which crowns are not given until the Lord comes. But by your logic, no man could take their crown since they had not yet received it.

"which thou hast" is not in the future, and the crown of life does not sound like an optional reward, but the sign of eternal life, which goes back to the discussion of whether being saved is in the present or in the future.

Thus the suffering of loss refers to what he would have at the judgment, that just as fruit such as the Philippians would mean the obtaining of a reward, losing this work (which is also suffering loss) meant losing the reward.

Except that is not what the Messiah said when using that word for suffering loss all three times. Here is another example of the reference to not watching (same word as in Luke passage being discussed), and it sounds much more ominous than the loss of an optional reward.

Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Revelation, Catholic chapter three, Protestant verse three,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

[daniel1212]

You are being ignored as one vainly flailing against the obvious Like a man who has lost both legs and arms, you have nothing new (and crowns are given when the Lord returns) to even gain a foothold (which is all you try for) against the insurmountable wall of evidence against your argument Those who want to see why can can look, by the grace of God.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3717315/posts?page=107#107
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3717315/posts?page=128#128
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3717315/posts?page=147#147
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3717315/posts?page=238#238
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3717315/posts?page=256#256
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3717315/posts?page=257#257
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3717315/posts?page=284#284
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3717315/posts?page=290#290
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3717315/posts?page=293#293
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3717315/posts?page=294#294
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3717315/posts?page=337#337
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3717315/posts?page=339#339
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3717315/posts?page=340#340

Its over. May God peradventure grant you “repentance to the acknowledging of the truth.” (2 Timothy 2:25)