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5 Myths About the Bible
Aquila Report ^ | 12/19/2019 | Chris Bruno

Posted on 12/19/2018 8:56:04 AM PST by Gamecock

Myth #1: The text and translation of the Bible is completely unreliable.

In a Newsweek article a few years back, the author claimed, “No television preacher has ever read the Bible. Neither has any evangelical politician. Neither has the pope. Neither have I. And neither have you. At best, we’ve all read a bad translation—a translation of translations of translations of hand-copied copies of copies of copies of copies, and on and on, hundreds of times.”

I hope this is hyperbole, because I don’t understand how a journalist could publish this. He is saying that the best we can hope to find is a translation of a translation of a translation. I think he means that our modern English translations of the New Testament are translations of a Latin translation that was a translation of the original Greek. I can’t speak for televisions preachers, evangelical politicians, or the pope, but I know that I have many students and colleagues who read the Greek New Testament quite often and quite well. And what we’ve found is that our English translations—the ESV, the NIV, the NASB and many more—are very reliable translations.

But some might say even if we can translate the Bible, we can never know what the original wording was. After all, the text of the Bible was copied by hand over thousands of years by thousands of people who made tens or even hundreds of thousands of intentional and unintentional mistakes.

It is true that until the 15th Century, the text of the Bible was copied by hand and sometimes scribes made mistakes. But this does not mean the text we have is nothing close to the original writings and completely unreliable. In fact, it is just the opposite, especially when we compare it with other ancient texts. We have over 6,000 manuscripts of the Greek NT (not to mention close to 20,000 ancient translations).

Of the 6,000 Greek manuscripts, the evidence of their contradictions has been greatly exaggerated. While there are many variations in the text, most of these are either spelling differences or word order. There are several other differences that do not change the meaning of the text at all, especially the use of synonyms. Less than 1% of the variants amount to a meaningful change, and none of these affect any essential Christian doctrine. None of this even considers the tens of thousands of Hebrew Old Testament scrolls and codices that show a similar level of reliability. The evidence is clear: our modern English translations are reliable translations of a reliable text.

Myth #2: The books of the Bible were arbitrarily chosen.

I’ll call this second myth The DaVinci Code myth (even though the first myth showed up in that book as well). The story goes something like this: during the first two centuries AD, there were hundreds of Christian documents being used in churches. Books like the Gospel of Thomas, the Acts of Peter, and even the Gospel of Judas were read alongside Matthew, Romans, Revelation, and the rest of the NT books. It wasn’t until Emperor Constantine legalized Christianity in the early 4th century that we narrowed the list down to our twenty-seven NT books. In the DaVinci Code, Dan Brown has one of his characters describe what happened next. “More than eighty gospels were considered for the New Testament, and yet only a relative few were chosen for inclusion—Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John among them.” When asked who decided which Gospels to include, he replied, “The Bible, as we know it today, was collated by the pagan Roman emperor Constantine the Great.” Even though these claims are a little grandiose in Brown’s book, many people believe some version of this today.

It is true that the early Christians wrote dozens, maybe hundreds, or documents in the first two or three centuries AD. It is also true that the NT canon was debated until around the time of Emperor Constantine. But that is about as much as The DaVinci Code gets right. But Christians were never considering eighty Gospels; in fact, the four Gospels we have in the NT were the only Gospels that Christians seriously considered for inclusion in the canon of the NT. They are by far the earliest Gospels, they have the most links to the apostles, and they were universally accepted by the church from the beginning. The Gospel of Thomas is probably the earliest of these other “Gospels,” but it was probably written somewhere around 150–180 AD. The NT Gospels were written around 60–100 AD, in the lifetimes of the apostles.

The same could be said about the other NT books. While it took some time for the twenty-seven books of the NT to be universally recognized by the early Christian church, there is no evidence from anywhere that suggests Constantine had any influence about which books were chosen.

Myth #3: The Bible is scientifically ignorant and unreliable.

Even many Christians believe some version of this myth. They will say that the Bible intends to teach late-Bronze age or Ancient Near Eastern scientific theories. We cannot trust a book that is so misinformed about science, right?

The problem here is when people assume that the Bible is intending to be scientific textbook that does not use normal language. I recently read someone accusing the Bible of a scientific error because it describes the circular bronze Sea in the temple with a circumference of 30 cubits and a diameter of 10 cubits (1 Kings 7:23-24). This would make the value of pi 3.0 instead of 3.14. Others say the Bible teaches a geocentric universe because Ecclesiastes 1:5 says that the sun rises and sets. This demands a level of precision in language that we do not use in normal conversation.

If I told you that sun is setting at 6:45pm, would you accuse me of being a heliocentrist and scientifically ignorant? It is true that the sun is not actually setting at 6:45 pm. The earth is rotating on its axis to the east so we will move out of range of the sun’s light. But if I talked about the earth is rotating out of range of the sun’s light at 6:45 pm instead of just saying the sun is setting, you’d think I was a little off. So the Bible uses normal human language to describe scientific phenomena, just like you and I do. To apply a different standard to the Bible is unfair and doesn’t hold up to the way language actually works.

Even though questions about the age of the earth and the details of creation are a little different, and Christians disagree about how best to interpret these chapters, even Genesis 1-2 is not intending to teach us a detailed scientific account of how the universe began. Instead, it uses normal human language to teach us about God’s power over his creation from the very beginning. When read in this way, none of the so-called scientific mistakes in the Bible amounts to a serious challenge to its absolute truthfulness and authority.

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Myth #4: The Bible is misogynistic.

Many people assume that in the Greco-Roman world, women were treated with honor, respect, and dignity until Christianity came along and messed everything up because the Bible teaches us to mistreat women. But this fails to understand what the Bible actually teaches about women. It is true that God also designed men and women to fulfill different roles and responsibilities in some areas, like the home and the church. But different does not mean unequal.

Many people have twisted Scripture to oppress women, but this is a failure to understand both what the Bible teaches about women and how God has designed men and women to relate to each other. From the very beginning, the Scripture is clear. Both men and women are created together in the image of God (Gen 1:26-27). Although women were consistently mistreated and abused in the Ancient Near East, the OT is full of stories of women of faith, like Hannah (1 Samuel 1-2), wise and courageous women, like Deborah (Judges 4) and Abigail (1 Samuel 25), and women who saved God’s people from destruction (Esther). In a world where women were hardly ever seen as anything more than property to serve men, the Bible’s view of women who are made in the image of God and used by him to accomplish his purposes is remarkable.

The NT only makes this picture clearer. Jesus treated women with dignity, love, and respect, even when they were shamed by the culture they lived in (John 4; Luke 7:36-50). While he certainly called women to repent of their sins, he did not leave them in their sin, but saw them as God’s image-bearers who are to be loved and honored. Throughout the rest of the NT, we see women playing key roles in evangelism and teaching, like Priscilla (Acts 18:24-26), church planting, like Lydia (Acts 16), and prayer, like Mary, the mother of John (Acts 12:12). Women were important co-laborers with Paul and the other apostles (Romans 16:17).

Myth #5: The Bible is a random collection of disconnected stories and inconsistent ideas.

Imagine if we took a legal document written in 1718, a collection of poems from 1818, a biography written in 1918, and finally a historical narrative written in 2018, and tried to make a it tell a coherent story. It would be difficult, right? This is how many people conceive of the Bible. It was written over thousands of years by dozens of people in several different cultures and languages. How could this book tell a coherent story?

But consider how the “offspring” unfolds throughout the Bible. Genesis 3:15 speaks of the “offspring” of Eve who would one day crush the head of the serpent, the devil. God promises Abraham, the descendent of Eve, that he would give certain promises to his offspring (Gen 12:1-3; 17:7) and Abraham’s great-grandson Judah received a promise that his offspring would rule over the nations. Centuries later, God told King David that his offspring would rule over a kingdom that would never end (2 Samuel 7:13). Centuries still after that, the prophet Isaiah spoke of the offspring of the virgin, who would rise up to rule over the nations (Isaiah 7:14; 9:6). When we get to the New Testament, we discover that the offspring of Eve, who is the offspring of Abraham (Galatians 3:16) is also the royal son of Judah and David (Romans 1:3-4). Finally, in a symbolic picture of the fulfillment of Genesis 3:15, a dragon, the “ancient serpent” tries to destroy the offspring of the woman, but he defeated the dragon and his allies once and for all (Revelation 12).

This is just one theme of many that we can trace through the story of the Bible. There are layers of themes that tie in this big story in a remarkable way. Some parts may have different emphases and different authors have different styles, and the story develops between the old and new covenants. But the story and details of the Bible are unified in amazing ways. The Bible tells one story of the one God who is redeeming one people in his one creation through the one Savior Jesus Christ. The unity of the Bible is breathtakingly joyous.

If this were any other book, I’d be hard-pressed to explain its consistency and depth. How could a book written in such a diverse way have such a remarkable unity? The only answer we can give is the inspiration of Holy Scripture. Christians throughout the centuries have confessed that this is no ordinary book. It is the very word of the living God. But he has revealed himself in this book, and we would be wise to read it, understand it, submit to it, and so be transformed by the gospel message it proclaims.


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To: Still Thinking
If you start with a non-rebuttable presumption that the Bible isn't inspired, and end up with the conclusion that it isn't trustworthy, that isn't newsworthy, it's circular reaasoning.

I wonder about the logic here. If you start from the assumption that some book or magazine or newspaper is not divinely inspired, it may or may not be accurate and trustworthy. If you start with the assumption that the work is divinely inspired you strongly bias your investigation towards the conclusion that it doesn't include errors or faults. Isn't that circular reasoning? Isn't your conclusion strongly implied in your starting premise?

But I'm also not convinced that "circular reasoning" is a problem here. If all men are mortal and Socrates is a man, the conclusion that Socrates is mortal is in a sense implied by your premises. If you want to argue that Socrates is a man and men are mortal but Socrates is immortal you have a problem. In other words, many true arguments may be tautologies and it's not a problem. If you have to assume something supernatural to make your argument work, the argument may (from a naturalistic point of view) be faulty.

If all texts created by humans can develop errors or mistakes by being copied and recopied for centuries or millennia, then it's possible, though not entirely certain, that your text transmitted down through the ages will have flaws of one sort or another. And you admit that in your first paragraph. If you say that the text is divinely inspired and therefore accurate and you admit that there are inconsistencies in it, you may have a logical inconsistency on your hands.

61 posted on 12/20/2018 10:47:53 AM PST by x
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To: TBP
I would say it’s unlikely that he was fluent in anything but Aramaic, given that his family was not from the elite, educated class.

King David didn't come from an elite, educated class, nor did Joseph of Egypt.

David became kind of all Israel, and is still seen as one of Israel's greatest kings, if not the greatest king, ever.

Joseph, from a very humble slave beginning, rose to become second in charge of all Egypt.

And what about the prophets, where did their proven knowledge of future events originate?

If a person can't except the possibility of a power beyond our comprehension, but accepts we humans fully understand all there is to know about the world around us, and how it works. Yeah, that same person probably can't accept that someone, without the aid of money or formal academic training, could rise beyond their initial station in life.

But the facts prove differently, as per the few examples I've given above. We also bear witnessed, daily, of powers and workings in this universe, well beyond our feeble brain's ability to comprehend. We don't even understand something called inherited knowledge, which even the lowest of animals possess.

While you think it unlikely, I think it highly likely this person we call, Christ/Jesus/Messiah/Yeshua, had powers and abilities beyond our understanding. From what the scriptures tell us, communicating in different languages would have been one of his minor abilities.

We disagree, and that is okay. I would like to leave you with a suggestion to read about His childhood. You can find some of these ancient texts (though not authorized) on the net. If nothing else, it's interesting reading.

Peace

62 posted on 12/20/2018 11:50:44 AM PST by amorphous
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To: Gamecock

But some might say even if we can translate the Bible, we can never know what the original wording was.


That is true to a certain extent because translating words can change meanings in the minds of the readers.

For instance it is believed that our Lord and his apostles spoke in Aramaic or Hebrew, the meanings of this language simply does mot change just because it was written in Greek.

Yet people with an Axe to grind will insist that since it was written in Greek that the Greek word is correct and the word the Hebrews used which had a different meaning was wrong.


63 posted on 12/20/2018 1:36:21 PM PST by ravenwolf (Left lane drivers and tailgaters have the smallest brains in the world.)
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. I’m pretty sure he had at least some input on the original Hebrew from rabbis.


He was said to have spent considerable time in Israel, i think he knew what he was talking about if any one does.


64 posted on 12/20/2018 1:41:43 PM PST by ravenwolf (Left lane drivers and tailgaters have the smallest brains in the world.)
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Jesus did not speak Greek. He spoke Aramaic.


That is true and if the very important people in the Temple had of believed in him we would know exactly what he said and meant.

We would not have to wonder how much the Greek translation has fouled a few things up, example (the brothers of Jesus).


65 posted on 12/20/2018 1:50:46 PM PST by ravenwolf (Left lane drivers and tailgaters have the smallest brains in the world.)
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Your assumption is only true if the writer does not know the nuances of the languages that he is translating to and from.

For instance, in Isaiah 7:14, the LXX has the Hebrew word for “young girl” as “virgin.” The common thought is that the LXX were learned men in both Hebrew and Greek, and chose the best meaning for the translation to clearly show something uncommon would happen.


66 posted on 12/20/2018 1:50:55 PM PST by kosciusko51
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Your assumption is only true if the writer does not know the nuances of the languages that he is translating to and from.


That is true, if they were as informed as they thought they were, not one wit any different from the supposedly informed of today which do not agree on many things.

When i was a kid the phrase (put a nickle in it and see if it will run) was used all of the time in the country but some one brought up in a college would not have any idea what it meant.

There has always been a gap in communication between the educated and the uneducated but it used to be much worse.

Also I am told that the new testament was written in Greek so they would have no Hebrew or Aramaic to translate it from but only descriptions of the events from memories of people who were witnesses.


67 posted on 12/20/2018 2:22:16 PM PST by ravenwolf (Left lane drivers and tailgaters have the smallest brains in the world.)
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To: x
I wonder about the logic here. If you start from the assumption that some book or magazine or newspaper is not divinely inspired, it may or may not be accurate and trustworthy. If you start with the assumption that the work is divinely inspired you strongly bias your investigation towards the conclusion that it doesn't include errors or faults. Isn't that circular reasoning? Isn't your conclusion strongly implied in your starting premise?

Never said I had that premise. I'd like to think that I didn't assume that, that when I considered the question of Biblical inspiration, I did so with an open mind. Or, if I did start with that presumption, that it was rebuttable.

But I'm also not convinced that "circular reasoning" is a problem here. If all men are mortal and Socrates is a man, the conclusion that Socrates is mortal is in a sense implied by your premises. If you want to argue that Socrates is a man and men are mortal but Socrates is immortal you have a problem. In other words, many true arguments may be tautologies and it's not a problem. If you have to assume something supernatural to make your argument work, the argument may (from a naturalistic point of view) be faulty.

Sure, it's certainly not impossible to start with a set of assumptions and reach a conclusion consistent with those assumptions and also correct. My point is that if part of the argument is circular or self-supporting, the result should be viewed as at least partially a hypothesis and not as an inherently correct proof.

If all texts created by humans can develop errors or mistakes by being copied and recopied for centuries or millennia, then it's possible, though not entirely certain, that your text transmitted down through the ages will have flaws of one sort or another. And you admit that in your first paragraph. If you say that the text is divinely inspired and therefore accurate and you admit that there are inconsistencies in it, you may have a logical inconsistency on your hands.

I don't know that I'd say all human authored or transcribed documents contain errors (certainly considering the accuracy OCD of early scribes described elsewhere in the thread), but certainly many do and for the sake of argument, let's stipulate that all do. In my first point, I outline the method by which a manuscript can be reconstructed with a high degree of confidence from copies, all of which contain errors, so long as there are enough of them and the error rate is reasonably low. Empirically, we can also assess the rate of decay in accuracy when we can compare two ancient manuscripts, one of which is substantially older than the other. If the rate of decay is low, it gives evidence of processes in play that in turn suggest a low rate of decay between the original writing and the earliest extant manuscript.

And finally, when it comes down to it, you're right. Belief in Bible inspiration does require some faith, and that's OK. Hebrews 11 describes faith, not as credulity, but as belief in something based on sound evidence.

68 posted on 12/21/2018 8:41:47 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: x
But I'm also not convinced that "circular reasoning" is a problem here. If all men are mortal and Socrates is a man, the conclusion that Socrates is mortal is in a sense implied by your premises. If you want to argue that Socrates is a man and men are mortal but Socrates is immortal you have a problem. In other words, many true arguments may be tautologies and it's not a problem. If you have to assume something supernatural to make your argument work, the argument may (from a naturalistic point of view) be faulty.

I had a further point I forgot to include in my first response to this. A person is pondering the question of divine inspiration, at least by implication. How can you consider that question open-mindedly WITHOUT allowing that it could be the case?? So my belief isn't so much that you 'have to assume' divine intervention as this: If you're unwilling to allow for the possibility (not presume it, or posit it), you can't meaningfully discuss this question; your conclusion is then forgone.

69 posted on 12/21/2018 8:50:48 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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