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To: metmom; Mom MD
Let's not trump this up. As I said, it's not de fide, the rejection of which would be heresy. It's secundum quod (according to evidence.)

Would it be even possible that you would not label all the evidence "fraudulent revisionist history"?

An outline of the evidence is in the article. Would you like to read more? Or would you rather reject the evidence sight unseen?

A "Holy House of Nazareth", even if it did not have the wealth of forensic evidence presented, could still be an aid to prayer and reflection, just as is a Christmas Nativity scene, a stained-glass window, or even a cross on your grandmother's grave.

We have a brick from the Berlin Wall on our mantel. My father-in-law got it from an Army friend. It is next to a little US flag. Does it have a place of respect? Yes. Do we idolize it? No. If you saw it in my house, would you go all huffy and demand more documentation than the very little we have? Anyone would think it insolent for you to do so.

You throw a lot of shade on Christian people's reverence for humble traces of Our Savior's earthly Life, the wall of the Second Temple where he amazed the rabbis and scribes, the Garden of Olives where He prayed, the "Stone pavement" where Pilate condemned Him, even traces of his blessed mother's humble housein Nazareth. I wouldn't make the mistake of inviting you to the Holy Land. It sounds like you'd share no joy, no respect, nothing except a very, very faint, unpleasant smell.

94 posted on 12/08/2018 11:18:30 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Blessed be God in His angels and in His saints.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
A "Holy House of Nazareth", even if it did not have the wealth of forensic evidence presented, could still be an aid to prayer and reflection, just as is a Christmas Nativity scene, a stained-glass window, or even a cross on your grandmother's grave.

Do Catholics really have such weak faith that they need *aids* to help them talk to God?

Whatever happened to walking by faith and not by sight?

Sheesh.......

It sounds like you'd share no joy, no respect, nothing except a very, very faint, unpleasant smell.

Cute but not surprising. Your subtle little digs are legendary, you ought to know.

101 posted on 12/08/2018 11:24:30 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; metmom; Mom MD
We have a brick from the Berlin Wall on our mantel. My father-in-law got it from an Army friend. It is next to a little US flag. Does it have a place of respect? Yes. Do we idolize it? No. If you saw it in my house, would you go all huffy and demand more documentation than the very little we have? Anyone would think it insolent for you to do so.

Do you kneel before the brick and pray to it?

Do you rely or appeal to it for your eternal salvation?

Do you light candles or burn incense before it?

Do you flee to it for protection?

See the difference?

104 posted on 12/08/2018 11:25:32 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You throw a lot of shade on Christian people's reverence for humble traces of Our Savior's earthly Life, the wall of the Second Temple where he amazed the rabbis and scribes, the Garden of Olives where He prayed, the "Stone pavement" where Pilate condemned Him, even traces of his blessed mother's humble housein Nazareth.

Romans 1:22-23 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

It's too bad you Catholics don't put as much focus on God alone as you put on everything else your religion endorses.

106 posted on 12/08/2018 11:30:41 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Let's not trump this up. As I said, it's not de fide, the rejection of which would be heresy. It's secundum quod (according to evidence.)

Would it be even possible that you would not label all the evidence "fraudulent revisionist history"?

The article itself threw "shade" on the whole thing.

A "Holy House of Nazareth", even if it did not have the wealth of forensic evidence presented,

To which it does not as noted by the article!!!!

....could still be an aid to prayer and reflection, just as is a Christmas Nativity scene, a stained-glass window, or even a cross on your grandmother's grave.

Is your faith in Christ really that weak that you need these things????

I'd respectfully recommend you read the Psalms and pray. Don't use any Roman Catholic writings.....just the Psalms.

111 posted on 12/08/2018 11:37:27 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I wouldn't make the mistake of inviting you to the Holy Land.

The 'holy land' tourist sites have been covered; sometimes more than once; trumped, if you will; by expensive Catholic buildings that completely block from view anything 'holy' in Israel.

388 posted on 12/09/2018 4:37:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Discuss the issues only and stop making personal attacks on other posters


495 posted on 12/09/2018 12:20:54 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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