Science Confirms: Angels Took the House of Our Lady of Nazareth to Loreto

tfp ^ | August 7, 2016 | Luis Dufaur

[Elsie]

(As, indeed, at the wedding at Cana, she told the servants, "Do whatever He tells you.")

Rome now implies:

"Do whatever She tells you.")

[grey_whiskers]

You winz Teh THredd.

[MayflowerMadam]

“Science Confirms: Angels Took the House of Our Lady of Nazareth to Loreto”

Science confirms global warming is caused by human beings, too. Doesn’t make it so.

[rollo tomasi]

Works do not matter, correct?

So why are you saying they do now? According to the Grace or bust crowd, faith in Christ = everything else after that does not matter because faith covers all and works are burnt to smithereens. Which one is it? Very hypocritical, lol.

Also, are you saying most Christians since the fourth century are condemned? That is extremely arrogant and hypocritical (Considering the Proddies use that "Those outside the Catholic faith are condemned" meme just the same I guess but in reverse).

[MayflowerMadam]

“Roman Catholics might want to read Isaiah. “

Reading the Second Commandment wouldn’t hurt, either.

[Elsie]

Key issue is that nowhere in the New Testament does it refer to the books currently in the New Testament, as being on a "list" of Scriptures.

No need for me to point out the qualifiers in this sentence; merely let me post the following:

“And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures” (2 Peter 3:15­-16)

 

“If anyone thinks that he is a prophet, or spiritual, he should acknowledge that the things I am writing to you are a command of the Lord. If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.”  1 Corinthians 14:37-­38

 

“And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God, which is at work in you believers.”  Thessalonians 2:13  ,

 

“Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and keep what is written in it, for the time is near”   (Revelation 1:3)

 

“We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us”   (1 John 4:6)

 

 

[Elsie]

Sorry, I did this on my phone.

Sorry for WHAT??

I'm am impressed!

[Trailerpark Badass]

“Imply” or “infer?” One’s on you.

[MayflowerMadam]

“Have a blessed Advent.”

What is Advent?
What is Lent?
What is the Apostles’ Creed?
When they read the Apostles’ Creed at the Bush Episcopal funerals, one section mentions “catholic” church.

Where are any of these things in the Bible?

When they say, “blessed is the fruit of thy womb”, they are quoting Elizabeth, Mary’s cousin, a mere mortal. Why?

[Elsie]

...and the doctor was astounded!

[Elsie]

If I made really good money writing obvious books; I COULD GET NEW TEETH; TOO!

[Elsie]

By then she would have been 47.

[Elsie]

House too expensive to keep up: have to sell.

Make an offer over at John's place.

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Luke 9:58

Jesus replied, "Foxes have dens and birds have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head."

Mom sold the house.

[Elsie]

Texas Flip&Move’s Snow sisters picked it up for pennies on the dollar.

Tony did all the redecorating.

[Elsie]

The Franciscans set up a nifty Holy Land Shrines replica in DC a little over 100 years ago --- up by CUA.

PIKERS!!!

https://www.lds.org/church/news/jerusalem-movie-set-ready-for-dedication-and-filming?lang=eng

[grey_whiskers]

So Peter says that some of Paul's letters are Scriptural, without saying which ones.

Paul says that the letters to the Corinthians are inspired. He doesn't say this about his other letters.

Revelation says it is a prophecy. It doesn't list any other New Testament books.

John's first epistle again, refers to "listening to" without listing which things are included.

The lines you're quoting have failed to substantiate your assertion.

[grey_whiskers]

I like the one about the woman caught in adultery.

"Let whosoever is without sin among you, cast the first stone."

Just then a small rock whizzes out of the crowd, catching the poor girl square on the nose.

"Mommmmmmmm! Cut it out!"

[Elsie]

That happened — or didn’t — the precise moment she died.

I guess much of what the book Rome assembled so long ago is lost on most Catholics.

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Exodus 32:32-33
 But now, if you will forgive their sin—but if not, please blot me out of your book that you have written.”  But the Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will blot out of my book.

 

Daniel 12:1
 “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.

 

 

 

Philippians 4:3
 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.

 

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

 

Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

 

 

 

Revelation 17:8
 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

 

 

 

Revelation 20:11-15
"Then I saw a great White Throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and THE BOOKS WERE OPENED. Another book was opened WHICH IS THE BOOK OF LIFE. The dead were judged according to their works as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to their works.  Then death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, he was thrown into the lake of fire."

 

Revelation 21:27

Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

[Elsie]

Then the fact that nothing in the New Testament gives an explicit list of all early writings which are canonical.

Well; when one gets to DECIDE just what IS canonical might have a LOT to do with this!

However; when the WHOLE CHURCH decides something; it might be wise to ACCEPT it!!

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Acts 15

The Council at Jerusalem

 ¹ Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: "Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved." ² This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. ³ The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. ⁴ When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

 ⁵ Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses."

 ⁶ The apostles and elders met to consider this question. ⁷ After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: "Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. ⁸ God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. ⁹ He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. ¹⁰ Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? ¹¹ No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."

 ¹² The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. ¹³ When they finished, James spoke up. "Brothers," he said, "listen to me. ¹⁴ Simon has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. ¹⁵ The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

 ¹⁶ "'After this I will return
   and rebuild David's fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
   and I will restore it,
¹⁷ that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
   even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things'
 ¹⁸ things known from long ago.

 ¹⁹ "It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. ²⁰ Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. ²¹ For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath."

The Council's Letter to Gentile Believers

 ²² Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. ²³ With them they sent the following letter:

   The apostles and elders, your brothers,

   To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

   Greetings.

 ²⁴ We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. ²⁵ So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— ²⁶ men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. ²⁷ Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. ²⁸ It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: ²⁹ You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

   Farewell.

 ³⁰ So the men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter. ³¹ The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message. ³² Judas and Silas, who themselves were prophets, said much to encourage and strengthen the believers. ³³ After spending some time there, they were sent off by the believers with the blessing of peace to return to those who had sent them. ^{[34] 35} But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, where they and many others taught and preached the word of the Lord.

Disagreement Between Paul and Barnabas

 ³⁶ Some time later Paul said to Barnabas, "Let us go back and visit the believers in all the towns where we preached the word of the Lord and see how they are doing." ³⁷ Barnabas wanted to take John, also called Mark, with them, ³⁸ but Paul did not think it wise to take him, because he had deserted them in Pamphylia and had not continued with them in the work. ³⁹ They had such a sharp disagreement that they parted company. Barnabas took Mark and sailed for Cyprus, ⁴⁰ but Paul chose Silas and left, commended by the believers to the grace of the Lord. ⁴¹ He went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches.