Posted on 12/08/2018 7:17:28 AM PST by NYer
How did the Holy House take off from its foundations and reappear intact about 2,000 miles away, where it remains to this day?
At a conference organized by the Amici del Timone Cultural Center in Staggia Senese, Italy, titled The Story of the Incredible Move of the House of Mary of Nazareth to Loreto, a topic was developed which challenges engineering.
Indeed, the Holy House, birthplace of Our Lady and where the Archangel Gabriel announced to her the Incarnation, has been for many centuries in the town of Loreto (Santa Casa di Loreto), in the Marche region of Italy, facing the Adriatic Sea.
However, the Annunciation took place in Nazareth, in the Holy Land, where the foundations of the Holy House remain to this day. When compared with the dimensions and characteristics of the Loreto House, they match perfectly; but the similarities and concordances do not end there.
How did the Holy House take off, so to speak, from its foundations and reappear about 2,000 miles away, where it remains intact to this day?
According to historical evidence, the move took place in the thirteenth century; but how could it have been done given the poor technological resources of the time?
The move is attributed to an angelic action officially recognized by Popes and sustained by saints. However, such authoritative approvals are not intended to explain the material procedure, which carried an object the size of a house from one continent to another practically overnight.
This transfer, however, was confirmed by historical, documentary and archaeological evidence. Once again, for the astonishment of many, science confirms the Church.
Prof. Giorgio Nicolini, who devoted his life of study and research to the case, spoke at this conference. Based on these scientific evidences, he proved indisputably the veracity of the miraculous transfer.
During his lecture, Professor Nicolini demonstrated the existence of many documents and eyewitness accounts of the transfer, which science and human method cannot explain. He also established a chronology of the change of location.
1. On May 9, 1291, the Holy House was still in Nazareth.
2. On the night of May 9 to 10, 1291, it traveled nearly 2,000 miles and reached Tersatto (now Trsat), in the region of Dalmatia, in what is now a suburb of Rijeka, Croatia.
On that occasion, Nicolò Frangipane, feudal lord of Tersatto personally sent a delegation to Nazareth to ascertain whether the Holy House had indeed disappeared from its original place. The emissaries not only verified its disappearance but found the foundation on which the house was built and from which the walls had been taken away as a block. Around these foundations in Nazareth, the Basilica of the Annunciation was built. In Loreto, the Holy House stands firmly, without its foundation, directly on the ground.
3. On the night of December 9 to 10, 1294, the Holy House disappeared from Tersatto and landed in various places of Italy. For nine months it stayed on a hillside overlooking the port of Ancona, which thus came to be called Posatora, from the Latin posat et ora (to set down, or land, and pray).
A church was built on the site as a memorial, as was recorded at the time and signed by a priest Don Matteo, probably an eyewitness.
Two tombstones also commemorate this occurrence. One is from the same time period of the event and is written in old Vulgar Latin. The other, from the sixteenth century, is written in vernacular and is a copy of the older.
Posatoras oldest tombstone already mentioned Our Lady of Loreto, making it clear that the inscription was done after the Houses departure from the site.
4. In 1295, after nine months in Posatora, the Holy House moved to a forest that belonged to a woman called Loreta, near the town of Recanati. That is where the name Loreto comes from.
5. Between 1295 and 1296, after spending eight months in this location the Holy House was miraculously transported to a farm on Mount Prodo belonging to two brothers of the Antici family.
6. In 1296, after four months at this farm, the Holy House departed and landed on a public road on Mount Prodo connecting Recanati to Ancona, where it remains to this day.
Countless other elements attest to the historical truth of this inexplicable translation of the Holy House. Three churches were built in Anconatwo still existingtestaments that eyewitnesses saw the flying Santa Casa arrive in Ancona and stop in Posatora.
Moreover, in Forio, on Ischia Island, fishermen who traded with Ancona returned narrating the events that had taken place in 1295. Their reports led the city inhabitants to erect a basilica dedicated to Santa Maria di Loreto. They also saw the Holy House in Ancona with their own eyes.
Various bishops of the region approved the veneration of the miraculous translations. For centuries the Popes renewed the approvals until Urban VIII, in 1624, definitively established December 10 as the Feast of the Translation of the Holy House of Mary, Mother of God.
Several Popes, including Paul II, Julius II, Leo X, Pius IX, Leo XIII and Pius XI documented their recognition of the translation. These respective documents, beyond their religious aspect in which the Popes recognize the event as supernatural, are recognized as valuable documents by historical science.
Professor Nicolini strongly reprimanded the materialistic mentality, at times agnostic, atheistic or Protestant, which seeks to discredit the authenticity of the Holy House venerated in Loreto.
In a way, this opposition encouraged deeper studies, which ended up proving the Holy House actually came from the Holy Land. Proofs include the chemical composition of the material used to build the house, its shape, and many architectural details.
Some, denying the angelic translation, went so far as to fabricate a story that a fanciful princely family from Epirus named Angeli had dismantled the house and transported it brick by brick at the request of the Crusaders facing the destructive advance of Muslims. That family then rebuilt the house in Loreto.
Such an operation, with the transportation conditions of the thirteenth century, would have been a more miraculous feat than the angelic translation.
The stones and bricks are kept together with a mortar whose physical and chemical composition is found only in Palestine and precisely in the region of Nazareth. They are nonexistent in the Marche region or anywhere else in Italy.
Moreover, if the house was dismantled and rebuilt in place after place along its journeyas claimed by its fanciful objectorsone cannot understand how it could possibly have maintained the exact geometric proportions of the Nazareth house, whose foundations, to this day, match perfectly the walls of Loreto.
Nor would it have been possible that nobody saw or heard the house being dismantled and later rebuilt, especially in the brief span of one night in the center of the shrine in Nazareth and then again in Croatia and Italy.
Even more inexplicable is the fact that the Holy House finally came to rest across an old dirt highway. On this road, the passage of animals and carriages naturally opened ruts in the center of the roadway, raising the roadsides, and forming ditches on both sides. Thus, the way the house landed, its three walls, with no foundation, are supported partly on ground and partly over open air. Today pilgrims can see this for themselves through a glass floor.
The Recanati City Hall, moreover, had already at that time forbidden the building of houses on public roads and had ordered demolished all buildings found to be in violation of the ordinance. How, then, could someone have rebuilt a house cutting across the road without anyone noticing?
Another great hurdle comes from the lack of means in those days to carry an entire house, even if dismantled brick by brick and stone by stone. It would weigh a few tons. Transport by road would have likely been unfeasible due the delay and the amount of chariots, animals and men it would require. Transportation by sea, while more feasible, would also have been too time-consuming and prone to loss due to storms.
More complicated still would be to cut the walls in segments and take them intact on a 2,000 mile journey and then glue them back together without leaving traces of the joints. These material factors, Prof. Giorgio Nicolini explained, postulate the impossibility of such transportation with the technical means of the time.
From Professor Nicolinis long and detailed demonstration it is clearly much more reasonable to believe the angelic translation resulting from a wondrous work of God, for Whom nothing is impossible, and Who has worked far greater miracles.
For human hands to have performed such a translation is to consider an event even more miraculous than that done by the work of angels.
I see once again that it's a non-catholic who resorts to personal attacks and/or profanity when he has no argument.
"have already been judged and found just."
Is it possible to teach one that is invincibly convinced that they are already as perfect as their Father?
What should we do when a gospel being preached to us is so foreign it appears to be almost entirely opposite to what has been received?
No Other Gospel Paul Defends his Ministry Paul Accepted by Apostles and Others Paul's Greeting to the Galatians
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Paul, an apostle, not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead, And all the brethren who are with me, to the churches of Galatia. Grace be to you, and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present wicked world, according to the will of God and our Father: To whom is glory for ever and ever. Amen.
I wonder that you are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ, unto another gospel. Which is not another, only there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema. As we said before, so now I say again: If anyone preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be anathema. For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? If I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
For I give you to understand, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. For neither did I receive it of man, nor did I learn it; but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. For you have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion: how that, beyond measure, I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it. And I made progress in the Jews' religion above many of my equals in my own nation, being more abundantly zealous for the traditions of my fathers. But when it pleased him, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the Gentiles, immediately I condescended not to flesh and blood. Neither went I to Jerusalem, to the apostles who were before me: but I went into Arabia, and again I returned to Damascus.
Then, after three years, I went to Jerusalem, to see Peter, and I tarried with him fifteen days. But other of the apostles I saw none, saving James the brother of the Lord. Now the things which I write to you, behold, before God, I lie not. Afterwards I came into the regions of Syria and Cilicia. And I was unknown by face to the churches of Judea, which were in Christ: But they had heard only: He, who persecuted us in times past, doth now preach the faith which once he impugned: And they glorified God in me.
Exactly.
Get back to the foundation of Scripture and toss the lies of Roman Catholicism.
The reason the Gospel presented in Scripture is so foreign to you is that Roman Catholicism has indoctrinated you with its version so that the genuine one would not be recognized by Catholics.
So comment, please, on the lawful "HONORS" as seen in the OT (directed toward husband, wife, king, prophet, patriarch, king's wife, king's mother, the Temple, the Ark, Jerusalem). Those are lawful intermediate honors, not idolatrous supreme honors -- and yet they include bowing, kneeling and prostrating. They are not idolatry. They are common, Biblically lawful, Israelite practice.
"Referred honor" means respect to a person or thing, the honor of which is "referred" back to God ("Not to us, not to us, but too Your Name be the glory...")
The Catholic Church has retained (barely) many of the God-pleasing customs of much older societies which had "thick" honor, referred honor: honor given in kiss and candle and ring and gesture, honor to the beloved and betrothed, chivalrous honor, patriarchal honor, the honor of holy attire, the banner, the escutcheon, the honor of being buried in holy ground. All of it "referred" ultimately to God.
Consider what living in a society with many, many layers of honor would be like.
We live in a society with vanishing, threadbare reverence. We can hardly even maintain the thin sharing of tiny civil proprieties --- the U.S. flag, the National Anthem, the Pledge of Allegiance --- let alone the thick layers of our history, culture and heritage.
And before national honor, we have striped off the prior and more foundational "natural piety" related to parents, to the dignity of the marital embrace, the piety which is the good ground which can receive the seed of higher things. "Honor thy father and thy mother" is the good soil which can readily receive "Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be Thy Name."
You seem to think that in honoring God, all the 1,000, or rather the 10,000 intermediate, referred honors between Earth and Heaven must be spurned.p> You compete with each other showing contempt for people who would like to touch the stones of that little stone house, people who show open affection for the humble woman associated with its small single room.
I am sorry you have no context to understand these things.
I'm going to write some vocabulary quizzes. Bye.
Thank you both for your kind welcome. Seems everything here is just as before ;-)
Good point. Sadly, she is so misunderstood.
Tim Staples, the author, is a convert who, in the process of trying to discredit the Catholic Church in his theological studies, came to realize that the fullness of the faith was right there in the Catholic Church, the one founded by Jesus himself. He wrote this book to answer the objections of Protestants and Evangelicals about devotion to The Blessed Virgin Mary. . Good book for non-Catholics, too, because it explains the basis for devotion to Mary and why Catholics love her so much.
Same thing Paul said to the Galatians. You keep trusting in that false piece of cloth.
I didnt either, when I was a catholic. 😁😇
Matthew, Mark, and Luke all tell the story of a woman with a discharge of blood who touched the fringe of Jesus garment and was healed (Matthew 9:20-22; Mark 5:25-34; Luke 8:43-48). On another occasion, a crowd brought to Him all who were sick and implored him that they might only touch the fringe of his garment. The account ends with Matthews telling us, As many as touched it were made well (Matthew 14:34-36; cf. Mark 6:56).
Any time anyone marshals a coherent argument against one of your posts, you ignore it and change the subject. Standard operating procedure for anti-Catholic polemicists.
Practically your whole presence here consists of insulting Catholics. Do you really think that glorifies or exalts Christ? Not to me it doesn't.
And you still can’t.
came to realize that the fullness of the faith was right there in the Catholic Church
Whatever his motivations, he chose to submit to the false theology of Rome. His call. I wish him well.
Hundreds of millions turn from Rome to Christ - in Latin America alone.
The apparition made it clear it was the wearing of the scapular that would keep them out of the hell fire. It even set certain criteria people had to comply with for it to happen.
You make the same false equivalency argument one of your fellow RCs tried. You do note this passage involved healing.....not salvation.....right??
Sigh
And he said to the woman: Thy faith hath made thee safe, go in peace. Luke 7:50
I see knowledge of the Bible is not you're forte.
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