Posted on 11/05/2018 6:07:05 PM PST by Gamecock
CARM is a very factually based site shedding the light on the false teachings of Roman Catholicism.
Yes it does, its an old mining town.
So, according to you, Jesus' sacrifice was NOT sufficient for the forgiveness of our sin.
How do you know when you’ve done enough to get out of purgatory? I believe Christ died on the cross and rose again to pay the price for my sins. I am forgiven because the Bible tells me so.
You would have loved it! :)
Dear Bwest..
Look for ‘Truth’...
It’s ONLY found in Christ.
Christ ALONE.
Not ‘anti-catholic’......just the Truth.
Be well in His eternal love in HIS Son alone.
Sigh, ok, well, as I was gonna say next, "Next question please!"
Dear Patrosius.....
Jesus in enough.... you need ‘Nothing’ else.
Free yourself from another ‘truth’....
God the Father placed ALL spiritual blessings in His Only Son....
....be ‘free’ in Christ Patrosius.
Leave EVERYTHING that in not HIM.
Best to you.
I am so sorry they can never be assured of their salvation. John 3:16 tells us that whosoever believes on Gods only begotten Son, will not perish but have everlasting life. Not one word about an intermediate place. Either you believe God’s promise, or you don’t. Believe!
We are not talking about the forgiveness of sin but of the cleansing the soul of the damage caused by sin. Or do you say that faith in Jesus Christ removes all sinful inclinations, and that one will never sin afterwards?
Purgatory also has a problem with the parable of the Prodigal Son. The father didn’t force his son to humiliate himself or suffer anymore. The fact that the son repented and sought his Father’s love again filled the Father with enough joy that all the son’s sins were forgiven and FORGOTTEN.
Purgatory was invented by the early church to bring in more treasure. The idea was used to sell indulgences to buy souls out of purgatory and send them on to heaven... Supposedly.
Totally un-scriptural and a complete scam. Anyone who still believes in a purgatory should have their head examined.
The work of Christ Jesus was fully accomplished on the Holy Cross. Our Savior pronounced it so, “ It Is finished.”
Our work will be finished, purified, “refined in fire, as silver”. Some things were a given. Thus, the money and prayer offerings for the dead apply to this purgation, and are scriptural.
The Protestant writer is short a few books.
You just do not believe that Christ dying on the cross and rising again was enough, do you? The rest of your salvation depends on something that others must do to get you out of that imaginary place. Paying money is not going to do it. Christ did it for you. Accept the gift.
Money and prayer offering for the dead? Then you do not have faith that what Christ did was sufficient so the rest depends on something humans must do. How do you know when you’re done?
It’s a two sided coin. While a person may be forgiven, they may not forgive themselves, and suffer from their guilt. So purgatory might be a place for them to find forgiveness in their hearts for their own sins, so they can clearly see the forgiveness that has always been there for them.
First, the souls in Purgatory are assured of their salvation. Their sins have been forgiven and once their souls are purged of any remaining residue of sin each and every one will enter into Heaven.
Also, please read Galatians 5:19-21:
Now the works of the flesh are obvious: immorality, impurity, licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, rivalry, jealousy, outbursts of fury, acts of selfishness, dissensions, factions, occasions of envy, drinking bouts, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.These words are addressed to believing Christians. Faith alone is not enough, we must also turn away from our sins. Of course James also makes this clear:
What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well,” but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it? So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead. Indeed someone may say, “You have faith and I have works.” Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works. You believe that God is one. You do well. Even the demons believe that and tremble. Do you want proof, you ignoramus, that faith without works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by the works. Thus the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called “the friend of God.” See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. And in the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by a different route? For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead. (James 2:14-26)Salvation requires more than just faith that Jesus paid the price for our sins. Thus the Bible teaches.
...Jesus in enough.... you need ‘Nothing’ else.
Free yourself from another ‘truth’....
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Won’t it be funny when you meet Patrosius in Purgatory?
Rest assured, all souls in purgatory eventually make it into heaven.
No soul in hell gets out.
Not at all! The prodigal son first repented of his sins. He could not just saunter back home and demand the fatted calf with the assurance that his father had forgiven him.
Chapter & verse, please.
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