Posted on 11/05/2018 6:07:05 PM PST by Gamecock
My doctrine?
I apologize. I read the opening paragraphs and did not see who had posted this. Of course I was answering Roman doctrine not yours.
;-)
Are you suggesting that Catholicism is untruthful?
Actually, Catholicism is not at all false. I am shocked and surprised that someone who identifies as Christian could believe such nonsense.
I would not start with purgatory.
Roman Catholicism teaches their members they have to believe certain things.
If they don't they're not faithful Roman Catholics.
The concept of purgatory is but one example of a false doctrine from Rome.
There are many, many others.
So yes....Roman Catholicism is a false doctrine.
I suppose the easy answer to your question would be, “what has changed since Martin Luther nailed his thesis to the door“?
Is that not exactly what you do?
Certainly not your shameful characterization of Catholics!
And what would you qualify as a ‘shameful characterization’ ?
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bwest wrote:
Certainly not your shameful characterization of Catholics!
Your inference that Catholicism does not lead to Christ. It does.
There is zero evidence in the scriptures that indicate explicitly or implicitly that a person's soul goes thru any kind of fire after death...It makes no biblical sense and it contradicts the scriptures, like most Catholic dogma...Your religion may teach anything it wants of course, but so can the Mormon and Izlamic religions...
We are the Christianity of the Christian bible...The Catholic Church has created its own religion based on its customs, traditions, and laws that are not only outside of the Christian scriptures but in so many places contradict the Christian scriptures...
Either the Catholic religion is not true, or the Bible is not true...How do you think you can defend your religion by arguing against the Christian scriptures???
My comments said nothing of the sort. Troll somewhere else.
From what I’ve learned so far, souls in hell are lost, but souls in Purgatory are saved.
Conceptually, maybe it’s like density, where, like shaking a soil sample in a closed jar full of water, each object seeks its own level.
The greater an object’s density, the lower its level, with the least dense objects floating on top.
I think “love” determines density in this Holy/Divine system the Creator built. Love is what saves a soul and thus gives it boyancy, the love the soul has for Jesus.
After the body dies, that’s what remains, the love, for the Father, Son and Spirit, and for our neighbors, per His Commandments.
The greater the love the soul has, the higher in Heaven, and perhaps in Purgatory, too, the soul rises after the body, the soul’s anchor to earth, dies and returns to dust.
I didn’t set it up, didn’t design it or build it, not at all sure how it works, but conceptually, that’s how I’m trying to understand it. Still learning...
The hardest part of learning? I’m still learning how to not be so full of myself and my own understanding that I have no room or desire for what the Holy Spirit is trying to teach me.
So, learning from the Holy Spirit is very counter to my stubborn nature, and I am very slow learning how to humble and empty myself to Him in this way.
I read this from Jesus earlier and am still thinking about it.
I have called and am still calling everyone to surrender to My Will and repent so that they enter into My Divine Light that will reveal to them the Kingdom of My Father and His Will; malice must be banished from every heart for evil brings death;Lots to think about, but it helps me to understand why I’m “not there yet” in my life and in my thinking.in your days, Vassula, when people still ask you how are they to know whether they are in conformity with My Will, tell them: "if your spirit is not resting in God, but feels worried, crushed and distressed over everything in this world, this is a sign that you have not fully abandoned yourself to God, nor to His Will;
for he who lives in the Will of God, trusts God; if hardships may come on his way, and his life is threatened these will not affect his peace, no, but if you fear for your life, this too, is a sign that you are far from having surrendered your will to God's;
a soul who has no fear, at all, is a soul that has given his will to God; if a soul prays asking God to obtain something, yet does not receive it and is worried for not having received it, that soul is still far from God's Will;
a soul that has surrendered his will to God's Will does not worry, does not fear, and does not live in anxiety for come what may, that soul remains unworried and in tranquillity, accepting God's decision, never losing his peace;
but a person who is only concerned about his life and all material things of this earth, this soul will be continuously living in distress, fear, and worries and not until he gives himself to God's Will, will he be able to live in peace and know God's Will;"
then, only then, will they see straight and acknowledge Me; Scriptures say: "yes, naturally stupid are all men who have not known God and who, from the good things that are seen, have not been able to discover Him-who-is" (Wisdom 13:1);
some will say: "the Lord inflicts on me sufferings and afflictions that are beyond my bearing"; "whatever comes out of My Will, if you are in My grace, you will be able to bear them with a light heart and with fortitude, for love bears with love and grace"; this is what you can tell them;
and if they ask: "but why does the Lord not give me this grace, and the gift of fortitude to bear all that afflicts my soul?"
My answer is: "I want you to give up your will to Mine! You have not surrendered your will to My Will but you are still walking on your own; and worse still, have you not wondered why it is every time you say, 'God made me understand, or told me, to do so and so,' yet these things have gone wrong and not come true?
this too is a sign that you have not completely surrendered to My Will; humble yourself; ask Me to grant you a contrite spirit, and you will rest in Me; then I will reveal to you the Kingdom of My Father;" despair not, for I am always with you; Love loves you;
Life is not unlike Purgatory in this way, apparently for the same reasons.
It did—we disagree. Please do not disparage Catholics.
Thank you.
My advice… If you do not like dissenting or opposing opinions and positions that different from your own… Don’t post on an Internet board.
Telling someone what they can or cannot post… Or should or should not post… Is what Democrats do
Have a great day
I offer the same sage advice to you. Please take it.
You continue to troll.... I don’t give a crap what you right… Or what you think… Or what you post… Just don’t tell other people what they should post
Now take a hike
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