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To: Jack Black

The constant refrain on the FR religion forum from Catholics is that Luther was anti-Semitic, which coming from members of another religious group that was every bit as anti-Semitic, strikes many as hypocritical.


159 posted on 11/06/2018 9:01:43 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Thanks, I don't really have any background on those discussions, having never participated in them. Is there a ping-list for non-devotional non-caucus religious threads?

Those would be of great interest to me.

160 posted on 11/06/2018 10:44:21 AM PST by Jack Black
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I'd like to put another perspective -- NEITHER Luther nor the Church were anti-semitic in the way we see the term today. They didn't see Jews as a race, but a religion.

So Luther had no problem with a person of Jewish origin who followed Luther -- yet if they didn't listen to him, he called for fire and brimstone on them. Luther called Calvinists and Catholics the same -- essentially he was brilliant and had a massive ego (this is separate from his theological views - I'm talking about his person, and that's different from his theology) -- he basically hated anyone who didn't follow him

NO ONE until the 1800s hated Jews for their race. If a Jew converted to another faith, he was no longer a Jew

Modern day anti-semitism is based on a flawed understanding of Darwin's evolution. Various European and American people who knew a little bit of science (a little knowledge is a dangerous thing) came to the conclusion that races are "evolution" - starting from the "lowest races" such as sub-saharan Africans or Irishmen (yeah, the racist idiots considered the two equally "low") all the way up to the "Aryan superman" -- again a stupidity as "Aryans" are properly only Iranians or North Indians.

Luther wasn't an anti-semite like the Nazis and neither were Catholics in the Middle Ages. Both of these would have been appalled at the Nazi killing

167 posted on 11/06/2018 9:55:45 PM PST by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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