Protestants Should Care Deeply About The Catholic Catastrophe.

National Review ^ | 8/27/2018 | David French

[SaxxonWoods]

Protestants cannot and must not view these events with a kind of detachment or distance, for numerous reasons.

First, we cannot forget that each and every revelation of abuse is the revelation of a life-altering (and sometimes life-shattering) event for the victim and a faith-crippling moment for friends, family, and countless others.

Second, given the plethora of recent sexual scandals in Evangelical churches and seminaries, the Catholic catastrophe should remind us that perhaps only the lack of an equivalent hierarchy has spared Evangelical churches from similar, systemic sin. “Our” scandals are more fragmented only because our churches are more fragmented.

[SaxxonWoods]

Non-Catholic view of the tragedy.

[Fungi]

Is this the same clown “nominated” by William Kristol to run for president? HaHa...

[ameribbean expat]

Whose wife was sexually abused by her family’s minister. Not a French fan, but he’s dealing with cleaning up this type of mess in his own family.

[PGR88]

because homos will corrupt any institution that becomes lax on sexual sin and standards

But then again, the Episcopalians have already gone a full 180 Degrees

[GOPJ]

... even setting aside (as if one ever could or should) the biblical and historic teaching of the Church, there is zero evidence that increased sexual tolerance somehow equates with decreased sexual scandal. It would be hard to find a more sexually liberated environment than Hollywood, yet one suspects we still don’t know the full extent of the exploitation and abuse there.

He's right on this part...

[SaxxonWoods]

Certamente.

[Fungi]

Wrong premise, wrong reply. I have no idea what you are talking about. Take your accusation elsewhere.

[raiderboy]

I am a Christian. Catholics and Protestant “ churches” are franchise businesses like McDonalds selling Christ like a variation of hamburgers. The franchisee sends the francisor 8% royalty from collected gross revenue. The word “ church” was never in the Bible originally until the King James Translation ( some say 80 years earler). That was 1600 years after Christ. You don’t need “church” to blur your vision!! Go directly to Jesus and simply believe in Him as the Son of God. Then go to John 3:16-18 and cry with joy . You are forgiven of all sin, past present and future and imputed righteous .

[bluejean]

‘”Our” scandals are more fragmented only because our churches are more fragmented.’

I dunno, the devil has lobbed frags all over the church militant, meaning the earthly church (every denomination), and it seems the response is typical Democrat/left - compromise, revise the scriptures and embrace the enemy. Hence the systemic problems.

[\/\/ayne]

I think the Catholic pedophilia scandal has encouraged Bible-believing Protestant churches to work hard to have no church volunteer or employee ever be alone with a child at church or a church event. I know that’s standard procedure at many such churches now.

[bonfire]

It’s been standard practice for at least twenty years in the Protestant churches where I’ve been involved. I grew up in the 60’s and was never in a compromising position with our pastors. Just wasn’t done. Of course Protestants don’t tend to put their pastors on a pedestal either which is a quite different dynamic than in the RC Church.

[MamaB]

Years ago, I worked with our youth minister. We made it a policy to always have the door opened when we had meetings. Of course, it helped that I am decades older than he.

[grey_whiskers]

Of course Protestants don’t tend to put their pastors on a pedestal either which is a quite different dynamic than in the RC Church.

You mean like Joel Osteen and the Profit-Driven church? Or the Rev. Jerry Lee Swagger?

All churches have sinners, it's what they're there for.

But the Catholic Church has been a particular target for infiltration by both secular and spiritual enemies, for many years.

[ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton]

The policy of not banning ALL gays from Seminary is probably responsible for 90% of the problem. The majority of the victims are adults but a good share are children. Of course, a gay person would NEVER also be a pedophile or assault a woman, right? Of course not! </sarcasm>

I think one thing Francis has said is to use extra ‘judgment’ in allowing gays in. That for sure will help...NOT!

[ifinnegan]

“...perhaps only the lack of an equivalent hierarchy has spared Evangelical churches from similar, systemic sin.”

Interesting way to say Protestants didn’t set up a system where homosexual males could have all the power.

[Thane_Banquo]

The Catholic scandal shows Protestants we need to be on the look-out in our own denominations. As Vigaro has shown, tolerance for pedophilia goes hand in hand with progressivism in the church, and Protestants should therefore be aware that any progressives among our denominations are possibly hiding pedophiles in their ranks.

[Secret Agent Man]

No one is gloating. We were declaring the warnings and saying the catholics needed to do something about it.

The reason other denominations havent had anything near this bad is because they have local control and they do not have an org structure that can hide this from the laity. Also they do not revere pastors and such the way catholics revere their clergy. Further none have policies requiring celibacy, thus sharply making candidates far, far more likely to be homosexuals, sexual perverts in charge of things, that cannot be removed by local church councils.

[bonfire]

Bingo!

[Luircin]

It’s true. In the LCMS it might not be synod-wide policy—they tend to leave that to the congregations—but it sure as heck is my PERSONAL policy.

I worked too darn hard and these people have waited too darn long for pastoral care to let it all get thrown out by a false accusation or an unproven rumor.