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Who Is A Jew?...eschatology pt 14
https://billrandles.wordpress.com/2018/08/20/who-is-a-jew-eschatology-pt-15/ ^ | 08-20-18 | Bill Randles

Posted on 08/20/2018 3:56:08 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles

For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God..Romans 2:28-29

Paul has been arguing in the first two chapters of Romans, that both Gentile and Jew are sinners, and liable to the wrath of God. Having a highly developed moral sense is not the same as being Righteous before God. Knowing the law, being taught of God, and being religious as opposed to being godless has its advantages, but before the bar of God’s justice all fall short.

Paul addressed the false confidence that the Jews in particular held, “resting in the Law” , and confident that they “were guides to the blind and ignorant”, not realizing that knowing the Law, and presuming to be the guides of the ignorant heathen, only increased their guilt, because “it is not the hearers of the law who are just before God, but the doers of it”.

The Law of God, according to the prophets was designed to produce the opposite effect, than the false confidence Paul charges Israel with. A true fruit of the Law of God properly understood, should produce the fruits of “contrition”, “brokenness”, and “trembling at God’s Word”.

The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.(Psalm 51:17)

For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.(Isaiah 66:2)

For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit,to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.(Isaiah 57:15)

This is the true spirituality that knowledge and immersion into the teaching of the Law was supposed to engender. Not “confidence in the flesh”, ie lineage or circumcision. Rather, moral and spiritual affinity with Abraham and Moses.

Moses himself preached this same message as did all of the Hebrew prophets. Circumcision is to be “of the heart” as well as of the flesh.

If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee. And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers. And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.(Deut 30:4-6)

Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.(Jeremiah 4:4)

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will punish all them which are circumcised with the uncircumcised;(Jeremiah 9:25)

Paul is only the latest in a long line of prophets calling Israel unto the circumcision of heart. The Law should have broken the hearts of Israel , by revealing the depth of sin, it was supposed to turn them unto the only one who could save them from their sins.

Would a physically circumcised Jew, who has no regard for God, no love,fear or sense of need for God, have any advantage over a gentile pagan, uncircumcised in body, but who has heard the gospel, and has a heart broken over his sins, and overflowing with gratitude to God for His redemption? This is the question Paul is raising.

What is a real Jew anyway? I am not denying that the physical seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are special to God, and that there is a Divine destiny for these people. God has brought them back to the Land because of His promises, and that in spite of their unbelief, as Ezekiel foretold,

Therefore say unto the house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD;saI do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name’s sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. (Ezekiel 36:22-27)

Jew is not just physical , it is moral and spiritual affinity. The very name “Jew” from Jahudah, means “I will Praise the LORD”. Who is it that lives to praise the God of the Bible? What matters, the Letter of the Law of God or the Spirit? What does it matter if strict Kosher is kept, yet the one keeping it is contentious against God himself, or when God calls there is no real answer?

What is the goal and summation of the Law of God anyway, but this-

“Thou shalt Love the Lord thy God with all of thy heart, and all of thy soul and all of thy mind, and love thy neighbor as thyself.”


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: circumcision; israeljews; jesus

1 posted on 08/20/2018 3:56:08 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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To: pastorbillrandles
I believe, that unbeknown to us, many of us are Israelite direct descendants. The LORD has gathered us into His Church, and will gather Israeli direct descendants back into Israel at the end of the tribulation, seven years after The Church has long been raptured.

God is about keeping His promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Though He cast Israel out, cut Israel off, He gathers their descendants back again into His Church, and then back into Israel, reinstating them into their original inheritance again, as fully endorsed by The LORD Israelites. They will be surprised, and so will the Judah Jews.

Also, Jesus bride, The Church is brought into His tribal identity, as His body, His wife, which is Judah.

2 posted on 08/20/2018 4:46:29 PM PDT by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus? He says absolutely amazing things, which few dare consider.)
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To: Bellflower

bkmk


3 posted on 08/20/2018 6:19:58 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine. Even tho physically free, Tommy's not free yet. He's still facing charges.)
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To: pastorbillrandles
Abram was elected from Ur of the Chaldee's. He was chosen by God, not of anything he did himself. Ishmael was a product of non belief, or lack of faith more accurately. Isaac was the child of Promise, not of slavery. Isaac had Esau and Jacob. God said in Malachi, Jacob I have loved and Esau I have hated. Before either was even born, God chose Jacob as the seed line to carry to Jesus. Esau is a story of curse and evil throughout the Bible. Jacob was elected and had done nothing to earn that. After Jacob, all were Jews and considered "Israel. The sign given to be a Hebrew was to be circumcised. Circumcision was an outward sign of cutting off the useless flesh to identify a believer in Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Today, Baptism is this putting away of the useless flesh to be reborn spiritually. Then Jesus came from the seed line of Jacob, but the OT physical Jew was about to fulfill a spiritual principal found in Joseph in Israel. Joseph was sold into slavery and eventually found his way to second only to Pharaoh of Egypt. Of course Egypt in Scripture is always a type for the world. Joseph took an Egyptian wife and had 2 Gentile kids. There was NOT a "tribe of Joseph", but his 2 kids were adopted by Jacob(Israel).

Ezekiel 37:16-28 tells of the 2 sticks being bonded together by God. The adopted Gentile kids(Ephraim), will be adopted into Jacob(Israel) A Christian that hates Israel, hates his own family. God has covenanted with Israel to save them forever. The last thing on the calendar of God is to return to earth and save Israel that is surrounded by a 200 million man army bent on their destruction. Psalm 2 speaks of this in detail. Israel is God's anointed people. To become Jewish, confess and believe that Jesus is Lord and you will be adopted. Jesus ascended to heaven telling His followers that He would NOT leave them as orphans, but gave them the Holy Spirit as a seal they would be saved. We are God's elect just as Israel is. God calls us and we respond. Jesus said "My sheep hear MY voice".

It should be very concerning to hear a church or congregation that are antisemitic. We know the world will hate God's people. Even Jesus told us that if we live in the world, we will be persecuted.

The seed line was in jeopardy when Judah married a Canaanite woman and had 3 kids. God killed 2 of them and Judah went into Tamar, a Semite woman, to keep the seed line going. Through Perez came the line of Boaz who married Ruth, a Gentile Bride, who was redeemed by a Kinsman Redeemer. This line went on through David. Moses was saved from Pharaoh's death sentence for all Hebrew males. That Pharaoh who forgot Joseph,( a type of Christ), was an Assyrian, a descendant of Esau. Later when Jesus was born, Herod the Great ordered all male Hebrew babies killed. Herod was a descendant of Esau, or Idumean. Rome was founded by Idumeans. These cursed people will forever be cursed by God unless they confess Jesus as Lord. IMO, the Antichrist will be from the old Assyrian Empire that was swallowed by Rome later and their seed line will be from Esau.

If we return to Genesis 6, we find fallen angels went into the daughters of men and created another being called Nephilim. These "Giants" plotted to take Canaan, the Promised Land, and make it a fortress that Israel could not conquer after 400 years in slavery. Immediately after Gen 6, we find Noah and the Flood. God says Noah was "perfect" in his generations. All other flesh was corrupted. After the Flood, we find the person with the curse was Ham. His son Canaan was the one that was cursed and he settled, Canaan, the said Promised Land. The first Giant to be born after the Flood was Nimrod, a type of the Antichrist. Rabi's say he was a murderer( he hunted men) and he was a cannibal. This "demon seed" spread throughout Canaan and several Giant tribes are mention in Scripture. The sons of Anach, Goliath being one of 5, Amorites,Amos 2:9, Og was king of Bashan, and Rephaim, among others. This is why God told Saul and Joshua to kill everything with breath in certain area's. Saul of course failed to do it and was removed as king and killed.

There are certain statements in Scripture that talk about things lasting for 7 or 10 generations, depending on what the sin is. IMO, I can't prove this by Scripture, that's how long it takes to breed out the bad seed. There are some that will never bring themselves to confess Jesus is Lord. They have reprobate minds. God is love, full of grace and mercy, but this demon seed will NOT be allowed in Heaven. God, in the end will give 21 Judgements in the Last Days and will be looking for repentance after each seal is broken, after each trumpet sounds, and after each vial is emptied. Israel means "struggles with God". Everyone will at some time struggle with God. If we submit to God, we will be an Israelite.

4 posted on 08/20/2018 6:28:27 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: Bellflower

Paul loved the Jews probably more than any other Christian writer throughout history. His life consisted of many paradoxes. He hated Christians and loved the Jews, then became one of the chiefest of the Christians. Most of the Jews hated and hunted him for this turn but his love for his true and pure heritage never waned.


5 posted on 08/20/2018 6:30:57 PM PDT by shineon
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To: pastorbillrandles

In the end, there’s aren’t more than two categories. In Adam, or in Christ. Having Abraham for your father, or the Devil. Being of the seed of the woman, or of the seed of the serpent.


6 posted on 08/20/2018 6:45:31 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Come, behold the works of the LORD, how he has brought desolations on the earth.)
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To: pastorbillrandles

He is a Jew who transmits the Torah thru time. IMHO.


7 posted on 08/20/2018 7:35:09 PM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: shineon

Yes, and interestingly enough, Paul was a Benjamite. Benjamin was Joseph’s full brother, both born of Rachel. Ephraim, Joseph’s son, was the namesake and ruler class of The Northern Kingdom, which was dispersed and lost. (Judah Jews were dispersed, but not lost.) Paul may not of realized it, but he may have been going out and gathering in his brethren, who chief among them was Ephraim.


8 posted on 08/20/2018 7:45:06 PM PDT by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus? He says absolutely amazing things, which few dare consider.)
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To: pastorbillrandles
A Jew is someone who is not a Gentile.

Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

First Corinthians, Catholic chapter ten, Protestant verse thirty two,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

9 posted on 08/20/2018 8:01:49 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: chuckles
To become Jewish Christian, confess and believe that Jesus is Lord and you will be adopted.
10 posted on 08/21/2018 11:03:34 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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To: Sender

True dat


11 posted on 08/21/2018 7:25:20 PM PDT by shineon
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