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| 07-25-18
| Msgr. Charles Pope
Posted on 07/28/2018 8:00:05 AM PDT by Salvation
Biblical inconsistency? Jesus does not negate himself but rather gives different teachings on following the commandments
Msgr. Charles Pope
7/25/2018
Question: In Matthew 5:19, Jesus rails against relaxing or changing even the least of the commandments, and yet verse 19 also says that if one does, “[he] will be called least in the kingdom of heaven.” It seems the consequences should be “losing” the kingdom of heaven if Jesus is consistent with what follows in verse 20. Can you explain the seeming inconsistency? — Jim Flynn, via email
Answer: Two different teachings are being made here, hence it is not a matter of consistency.
In verse 19, the operative teaching is that while unrepented mortal sin excludes one from the kingdom of God, not all violations of the law are mortal. Even the Ten Commandments, while indicating grave sin in themselves admit of lighter matter.
For example, regarding the Seventh Commandment, stealing a large amount or something essential or irreplaceable is usually a mortal sin. However, taking something small or insignificant, while a sin, may not be a mortal sin that excludes one from the kingdom of God. Thus, if the Lord were to adopt your word, the condemnation might be too sweeping. It does not follow that if someone breaks the least of the commandments they necessarily lose the kingdom of God.
Further, you will note that there is a kind of parallelism or play of words at work here. The Lord is saying, in effect: “If you break even the least of my teachings, I am going to call you the least!” Preachers often use such sayings in order to be memorable.
For example, consider the following word stitch: “Say what you mean, and mean what you say. But don’t say it mean.” The word “mean” unites all three phrases, but in each case a slightly different sense of the word “mean” is used.
Here, the Lord is not only being careful not to imply that even small infractions would land us in hell, but he is also being artful, resourceful and memorable by his use of a parallelism.
As for verse 20, we encounter a different teaching: “I tell you, unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter into the kingdom of heaven.”
Here we are dealing with the problem of minimalism. Though the Pharisees fancied themselves meticulous observers of the law, they were very minimalist in their application of it. Jesus said they were hypocrites because they followed exacting laws about small things, such as tithing, but neglected weightier matters of the law, such as justice and mercy (cf. Mt 23:23). It is one thing to pay tithes; this is good and required. But neglecting the poor and failing to feed and teach them is far more important to God.
Jesus will develop this teaching against minimalism in the verses that follow in the Sermon on the Mount. For example, he will teach that it is not enough to avoid murder; the command requires we let God banish vengeful hatred from our hearts. It is not enough to avoid acts of adultery; we must allow God to give us chaste minds and hearts. It is not enough to avoid excessive retaliation; we ought to avoid retaliation altogether.
Therefore, the message of verse 20 is a call to exceed the minimalist notions of the law. Grace equips us for more, and we are expected to attain more by that grace. The old law could not save. Only the “new law” of grace can save or make us sufficiently holy to enter heaven.
Thus verse 19 speaks of little things, verse 20 of weightier things.
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To: ealgeone
I could live in a 10m apartment building and own nothing. You’re not very good at this
To: ealgeone
So let’s have a discussion about what your says. Whsre can I find their teaching?
As for calling you a liar. It was true and i proved it.
This board isn’t my life, I couldn’t care less if it’s against the rules to tell the rules to tell the truth.
To: nobamanomore
How can you criticize annulment process when protestants dont care how many times youre married, nor whether you ever confess adultery, or ever stop doing it. Why do you post misrepresentations of non-Catholic thinking? If that's what you've been told, someone lied to you.
But for all Catholic condemn divorce, they sure don't have a problem with the sin is relabeled as *annulment* and can get one with their church's complicity. Especially for the right price. It's amazing what a little cash can do to get some people to overlook sin.
What an abomination!
Ironic that you condemn *Protestant* preachers when your clergy live in the lap of luxury, host cocaine fueled homosexual orgies at headquarters and move around actively homosexual priests who are molesting children instead of turning them over to authorities, prosecuting them, and defrocking them.
No, all we hear is *Once a priest, always a priest* and the priest who have been molesting some alter boy the night before, goes up in front of the congregation and serves mass and dares to take in those same hands the eucharist as if he were the paragon of virtue and holiness.
And I wonder what those congregants would think if they knew what those hands that place the host in their mouths that they are told THEY are unworthy to handle, had been doing the night before?
And then Catholic dare to point fingers at others as if they are standing on the moral high ground?
FWIW, I don't recall any of those televangelists you mentioned having their own private army to defend them and their estate, either.
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posted on
07/31/2018 7:46:34 AM PDT
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
To: ealgeone
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posted on
07/31/2018 7:50:39 AM PDT
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
To: nobamanomore; ealgeone
Owning nothing isn’t an issue when you live like those guys do. All it means is that in addition to their ostentatious lifestyles, they don’t have to worry about paying the bills or maintenance, or any of the other concerns the rest of us unwashed have to deal with.
Again, Catholics condemn in others what they allow for themselves.
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posted on
07/31/2018 7:52:36 AM PDT
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
To: metmom
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posted on
07/31/2018 7:53:28 AM PDT
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
To: metmom
It’s also a wonder that God does not strike that homosexual, altar boy molesting scum right there on the spot when he lifts up the eucharist.
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posted on
07/31/2018 7:54:37 AM PDT
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
To: metmom
The church doesn’t charge for annulments anymore, you are misinformed. If that’s what you’ve been told, someone lied to you.
Are people living in adultery allowed in your church?
What an abomination!
I don’t condemn the protestants for living in luxury, I condemn for using the Gospel to enrich themselves.
FWIW, the very apostles denied knowing Jesus, only one as far as I know showed up for the crucifixion. One also took part in the persecution of Christians. They weren’t perfect, they were sinners.
I guess I could be like you and the other trolls and spend my entire life attacking other Christians on their protestant threads, but fortunately I am not anti Christian. Most of my family is Baptist, one brother;s a minister, we get along.
Why don’t you leave us alone and get along?
To: metmom
What are you doing? The same thing? I didn’t comment on a protestant thread and attack people. Get a life!
Why don’t you volunteer at the Church of make my Escalade payment instead of spending your free time attacking Catholics?
To: Biggirl
[Biggirl]
Going to informing books on the scriptures do much better job than it from a context point of view. There excellent scripture scholarship out there. ☺ [Daniel1212]You mean like study helps and all the notes in your New American Bible for the past 5 decades?
There are excellent books outside of the Bible itself.
Which does not answer the questions.
Your OPINION only.
Are you serious? This is an example of Catholic reasoning? superiority? You either answered the specific questions or you did not? Is 2+2=4 also just my opinion?
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posted on
07/31/2018 8:51:34 AM PDT
by
daniel1212
(Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
To: kosciusko51
My apologies. It is implied in your statement, but not explicitly mentioned. But RCs say I am too prolix!
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posted on
07/31/2018 8:52:39 AM PDT
by
daniel1212
(Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: metmom
Mary sinned just like the rest of us.
You are welcome to your own opinion but i have no doubt she was sinless compared to me.
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posted on
07/31/2018 11:16:21 AM PDT
by
ravenwolf
(Left lane drivers and tailgaters have the smallest brains in the world.)
To: metmom
Yes, we are saved by Grace and not works because there is no way any one could do enough to earn his way, a man might give his 12 year old son fifty cents or a dollar to fill the wood box, not that he earned it because that should be his job any way but if he don`t do it he won`t get the money.
Mathew 7
21 Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles? 23 Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!
It appears to me that Jesus is speaking to a whole bunch of people who claim to believe in him and it is pretty plain they are going to hell.
The only ones who will enter heaven is the ones who does the fathers will.
James 2:14-26
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
The works James is talking about is what Jesus plainly told us to do.
And if we are doing what Jesus told us to do maybe we won`t have time to sin as much.
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posted on
07/31/2018 11:57:38 AM PDT
by
ravenwolf
(Left lane drivers and tailgaters have the smallest brains in the world.)
To: ravenwolf
The Matthew 7 passage shows that works without faith will not save you. These are people relying on their works, not their faith.
As for James 2, the questions is do works follow faith, or is it faith + works? c.f. Ephesians 2:8-10. James and Paul are not in opposition, rather they stand back-to-back to antinomians and legalists.
To: metmom
To: nobamanomore
No Christian church I know would allow it.
The person would be removed from the membership roles and not permitted to hold any kind of church office.
They would be counseled and advised to stop the sin.
By your comments, it is clear that you are painfully ignorant of how Christian churches deal with sin. I’m guessing that you are just using what you’ve heard in the Catholic echo chamber.
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posted on
07/31/2018 12:34:53 PM PDT
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
To: nobamanomore
I condemn for using the Gospel to enrich themselves.And the Catholic church is different just how?
They live like that and then expect the laity to bail them out when they are sued for molesting kids?
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posted on
07/31/2018 12:36:09 PM PDT
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
To: nobamanomore
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posted on
07/31/2018 12:37:07 PM PDT
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
To: ravenwolf
God doesn’t care about how we compare to each other.
He cares about how we compare to HIM.
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posted on
07/31/2018 12:38:55 PM PDT
by
metmom
( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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