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To: Sontagged
Have you read the Revelation? In it you will find the source of Life after transformation in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye. GOD's Spirit is the source of LIFE in the resurrected body, the Glory radiating from His Spirit, not blood as in the carnal body we now indwell.

Some have posited that it was in fact the sudden appearance of that Glory which left the imprint upon the Shroud of Turin, as the Spirit radiated LIFE from a point within the body in the tomb. There is a very small but dynamic proof for this, that the source of radiant energy emitted from a point within the body of the tomb sequester Jesus. Would you like to know what that proof is?... And it's Science!

749 posted on 07/05/2018 9:54:12 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

“There is a very small but dynamic proof for this, that the source of radiant energy emitted from a point within the body of the tomb sequester Jesus.”

I read a bunch from some nuclear physicist gal that examined the Shroud. She posited that it was an event like a mini “Big Bang”. I think something in the shroud image shows that it wasn’t weighted laying down on the body, and the body wasn’t laying on the shroud. Everything was suspended in air. She had some explanation about that - something like “In a singularity there is no gravity”.

I don’t know - it isn’t critical to my faith - but it sure is interesting.

It wouldn’t surprise me that a God that can speak everything into existence with a Word out of nothing (like the “Big Bang” theory suggests) - something as “simple” as a person can be brought back to life with a mini bang.


751 posted on 07/05/2018 10:04:05 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: MHGinTN; metmom; Elsie
Whaaa?

Jesus dispelled the myth that He was a ghost or in a glorified body at the Resurrection:

"Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.” - Luke 24:39

I swallowed the Shroud of Turin Kool-aid for a while, like you, until I realized how long we have been hoaxed by other centuries-old masonic Jesuit type hoaxes, this was just a camera-obscura experiment.

Carbon dating in the Shroud also proves nothing.

But the bigger problem with the Shroud is that it was not mentioned in God's Word... His gravecloths were mentioned but not some radiation image.

Which means God does not want us to rely upon extra-Biblical proofs (or hoaxes, no matter how well-meaning) to verify all the built-in proofs of the Word. His Word is sufficient. And Eternal.

You overlook that he same power that raised Lazarus from the dead raised Christ from the dead.

Why wasn't there a radiation burst with Lazarus - or one noted on his grave cloths? Why wasn't there a radiation burst with Tabitha's resurrection?

I only take the time to ask you these questions to shake you out of your misconception about the Resurrection.

Christ was fully man when He died and fully man when He was resurrected, otherwise, there would be no point!

For Christ in His Godhood to have died and to be raised in His Godhood, there is no propitiation of sin.

That is the most solemn criticism of your extra-biblical imaginings you can get.

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

The reason Luke and the other gospels mention how many times Jesus and Lazarus ate food was to prove they were fully resurrected in their flesh/blood/bone bodies.

Your beliefs negate the totality of the miracle of the Resurrection, because you imply that Christ was not really raised from the dead in His incarnate body, but as a Spirit.

Jesus's own words about this indict you of a serious error. Please reconsider how Christ's words "I am flesh and bone, NOT A SPIRIT" tie into John's admonitions about the spirit of Anti Christ...denying that Christ is come in the flesh and RAISED IN THAT SAME FLESH.

Not a glorified body.

Finally, you don't need to add anything to the Gospel about the Shroud as an extra-biblical "sign and wonder".

God does not need a sign and a wonder hoax with the Shroud of Turin to evidence the most important miracle at the apex of all history: the Resurrection.

P.S. Remember Mormons don't believe Jesus was raised in the flesh/blood/bone either. This clues you in as to how important this topic is to the Lord.

754 posted on 07/05/2018 11:27:22 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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