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To: MHGinTN; metmom; Elsie
Whaaa?

Jesus dispelled the myth that He was a ghost or in a glorified body at the Resurrection:

"Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.” - Luke 24:39

I swallowed the Shroud of Turin Kool-aid for a while, like you, until I realized how long we have been hoaxed by other centuries-old masonic Jesuit type hoaxes, this was just a camera-obscura experiment.

Carbon dating in the Shroud also proves nothing.

But the bigger problem with the Shroud is that it was not mentioned in God's Word... His gravecloths were mentioned but not some radiation image.

Which means God does not want us to rely upon extra-Biblical proofs (or hoaxes, no matter how well-meaning) to verify all the built-in proofs of the Word. His Word is sufficient. And Eternal.

You overlook that he same power that raised Lazarus from the dead raised Christ from the dead.

Why wasn't there a radiation burst with Lazarus - or one noted on his grave cloths? Why wasn't there a radiation burst with Tabitha's resurrection?

I only take the time to ask you these questions to shake you out of your misconception about the Resurrection.

Christ was fully man when He died and fully man when He was resurrected, otherwise, there would be no point!

For Christ in His Godhood to have died and to be raised in His Godhood, there is no propitiation of sin.

That is the most solemn criticism of your extra-biblical imaginings you can get.

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

The reason Luke and the other gospels mention how many times Jesus and Lazarus ate food was to prove they were fully resurrected in their flesh/blood/bone bodies.

Your beliefs negate the totality of the miracle of the Resurrection, because you imply that Christ was not really raised from the dead in His incarnate body, but as a Spirit.

Jesus's own words about this indict you of a serious error. Please reconsider how Christ's words "I am flesh and bone, NOT A SPIRIT" tie into John's admonitions about the spirit of Anti Christ...denying that Christ is come in the flesh and RAISED IN THAT SAME FLESH.

Not a glorified body.

Finally, you don't need to add anything to the Gospel about the Shroud as an extra-biblical "sign and wonder".

God does not need a sign and a wonder hoax with the Shroud of Turin to evidence the most important miracle at the apex of all history: the Resurrection.

P.S. Remember Mormons don't believe Jesus was raised in the flesh/blood/bone either. This clues you in as to how important this topic is to the Lord.

754 posted on 07/05/2018 11:27:22 PM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: Sontagged; MHGinTN; metmom; Elsie; aMorePerfectUnion
Physical death is separation of a human's soul and spirit from the body. The soul and spirit have eternal existence, according to the Bible.

Whatcha gonna do if you died in a fire and your body and bones were consumed by it? Huh? Will you be resurrected? If so, where's your body gonna come from? what will it be made of?

The real "you" is your soul and spirit. Your body is/was just a continually changing vehicle that finally wears out, if it isn't killed before a natural death occurs. If God provided your soul and spirit with another, better, non-aging, totally satisfying vehicle without blood, kind of like Robocop, would you have a temper tantrum and demand that it be given blood? Huh?

What is your problem here? Because Jesus ate honey and fish doesn't mean you know how the ingested stuff was processed. You don't, so please don't insist that you have any idea of what a resurrected body is like, until when/if you get one.

I'm going for the Terminator model, myself. /sarc

759 posted on 07/06/2018 2:33:14 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Sontagged
You really seem desperate to reject what counters your opinion. Yes, just opinion. The GOD who spoke worlds into existence can inject life into dry bones. He even tells you He is going to do it! Dry bones are bloodless. Bones don't"t just make blood cells, they function like a scaffold for the sinews and muscles.

Are you denying that GOD can walk about in a body enlivened by Spirit rather than blood? Do you realize that JESUS told us He had not yet made/ received His glorified body even though He was on a walkabout before the Ascension?

Do you realize that your assumptions are no more valid than the opposites of your assumed? Please read the Revelation of John, and refer to Isaiah and Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Daniel. Then read carefully what Paul wrote to the Corinthian and Thessolanika believers.

785 posted on 07/06/2018 6:21:48 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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