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To: Elsie
I've made patterns of many projects I've built over the years; but the final product was the only result. The 'pattern' only existed in my mind first, and on paper later. Then the object got built.

Els, I don't see that this has any bearing on the matter at hand. God seems to have given Moses a look into Heaven, as He has done with other prophets, especially Daniel and John the Theologian. God showed them things which are visible, at least with the mind's eye, but He gave Moses the blueprints; and like a good Jewish lawyer, gave Himself and Moses the copyright by virtue of issuing the second of the Ten Commandments.

1 Corinthians 2:9
But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

Sure, but these things are abstract, hence not visible, thus cannot be seen, although they may be experienced. For openers, you could start with God's attributes, which gives rise to the sequel:

1 Corinthians 2:10
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

I assume that 'prepared' means created beforehand. Would that be close?

Yeah, regarding abstract qualities and actions that, when employed, might produce material results.

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However, its about time to draw this debate to a close. I want to go on record that as a Christian, I love you as a brother, and have the sense that taking this any farther might not be profitable to that great adventure we share.

719 posted on 07/05/2018 3:59:50 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Heb 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrFiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1; Elsie
Correcting my tagline that somehow got tangled up with the text of the debate.

Fiat Lux

"LET THERE BE LIGHT"

720 posted on 07/05/2018 4:11:45 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

I agree wholeheartedly!

We FReepers tend to devolve into arguing (debating ;^) over words; and Scripture has warned us of that.

I can’t hardly tell my Catholic believers to call no man father when I tend to ignore the arguing over words verse.


725 posted on 07/05/2018 5:58:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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