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At the name of Jesus
OSV.com ^ | 06-10-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 06/23/2018 7:48:28 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: Al Hitan

I have been doing this exercise for a few decades. The Lord has brought some into His family through it. I trust Him to give the advice, to your human soul via His Holy Spirit whispering to you in the exchanges. It is all His and ONLY He deserves the credit if you get born again.


641 posted on 07/02/2018 3:48:49 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN
Want to try again?

Nope, that was good enough.

642 posted on 07/02/2018 3:49:04 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan
Can you answer any of the questions regarding the coin and the tax?
643 posted on 07/02/2018 3:50:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN
Jesus was not worshipping money or the image of Caesar on the coin ...

That's right but it's not because the coin didn't have an imprint on it of a being claiming to be a god

644 posted on 07/02/2018 3:52:17 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: MHGinTN
t is all His and ONLY He deserves the credit if you get born again.

If I get born again? You know nothing about me to say something like that.

645 posted on 07/02/2018 3:54:23 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan

That includes any created being...namely the Roman Catholic version of Mary.


646 posted on 07/02/2018 3:55:03 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: MHGinTN
My Lord answers His Promises.

Read my post again. I asked what ignorance. Any Christian knows the above, even those at the fringe.

647 posted on 07/02/2018 3:57:49 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: ealgeone
That includes any created being...namely the Roman Catholic version of Mary.

Yes, Mary is a created being and that applies.

648 posted on 07/02/2018 3:59:12 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: MHGinTN

Yes, sir! Loud and clear. Amazing how the RCs run from this topic.


649 posted on 07/02/2018 4:04:20 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: MHGinTN
BTW, do you know what Jesus asked His disciples when they showed up with the coin from the fish’s mouth?

Where does Scripture say His disciple showed up with the coin from the fish's mouth?

650 posted on 07/02/2018 4:06:08 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: MHGinTN
I trust Him to give the advice, to your human soul via His Holy Spirit whispering to you in the exchanges.

The Holy Spirit is whispering not to listen to your advice.

651 posted on 07/02/2018 4:09:27 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Elsie
From what I read, we ALL process 'eternal life'.

Not exactly. All souls conceived have erternal existence. Not all have eternal life.

There are three kinds of life: physical, spiritual, and eternal

o Physical life means union of soul, spirit, and body in one functioning, self-perpetuated unit.

o Spiritual life is communication of a human's mind and spirit with The God's mind and spirit, with a felicity of fellowship conferred on the union.

o Eternal life is the existence in perpetuity of the human tripartite person in God's realm of Heaven of absolute life without death being present, and creativity and renewal having dominion.

There are three kinds of death:

o Physical death is separation o the soul and spirit from the earthly body.

o Spiritual death is the separation and lack of communication of man's spirit and mind with God's spirit and mind, as well as separation from the dead spirits of other humans, resulting in spiritual isolation and absence of any kind of fellowship, with only one's shortcomings to contemplate, never to be revised.

o Eternal death is the prolonged suffering of a human's mind and spirit in a body too painful to ever have rest, and upon which is inflicted the agony of the Lake of Fire, augmented by the addition of death and hell into it, with not a moment to rest or create any alternative. There is no unity of thought or principle or design there, only destruction.

Not everyone receives eternal life, Els, although annihilation is not an alternative option either, as far as I can deter,ine from the Bible.

652 posted on 07/02/2018 4:40:33 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1; Elsie

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Everythjing you hape posted is of human imagination.


653 posted on 07/02/2018 4:45:08 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: blackpacific; metmom

Please don’t insult the meaning of “syllogism” by claiming a logical process in your Post #568. There is nothing present but “reasonings”—figments of your imagination—which is a pejorative use of rational thinking to attain an illogical conclusion.


654 posted on 07/02/2018 5:21:59 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Elsie
Hmmm. Sounds like false doctrine to me. We haven’t seen old Joe Smith on the thread yet, have we? 😁😆
655 posted on 07/02/2018 5:47:30 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ealgeone; metmom
But even then, as per Roman Catholicism and what many have told us on these threads, you cannot understand the texts without a priest to explain them to you.

That is what I was told, when I was a catholic. I was such a horrible, terrible, incorrigible, rebellious, independent minded catholic, however, that I picked a Bible, and started reading it, and interpreting it for myself, just to spite them. 😊 Oh the horror of it all. That’s when I became a YOPIOS kind of guy, and left that religion, once and for all. 👍

656 posted on 07/02/2018 6:20:36 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: metmom
And nobody bows down to a coin.

Except maybe evil scum bags like George Soros, the Hildebeast, and other assorted pieces of human debris, like them. Those jerks probably worship money. 👎

657 posted on 07/02/2018 6:36:23 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

No doubt......


658 posted on 07/02/2018 6:38:56 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: metmom; blackpacific
It is not wrong to accord a man as being so spiritually mature that he has recruited disciples and indoctrinated them to the point where they have under conviction of the Holy Spirit made their own observation of personal depravity and have persistently committed their trust in Jesus as Lord and Messiah, seen them inducted into lifelong discipleship through the delegated authority of the rite of water immersion, then continued to teach them to keep watchfully secure and unchanged whatsoever Jesus imparted to His chosen disciple-apostles such that they have overcome the Evil One; for Beloved John claims this for himself as well as for coequally spiritually mature men (1 John 2:12-14, 3:18, 4:4, 5:21; 3 Jn. 1:4), as also has Paul (1 Cor. 4:15; 2 Cor 6:13; Gal. 4:19; 1 Thess. 2:7, 11; 1 Tim. 1:2; 2 Tim. 1:2, 2:1; Titus 1:4); and such show that there are such persons.

However, in 1 Jn. 2:15 John shows (as compared to the immediately previous verse), as do other writers, that The God Whose Spirit created in us a newly born child in the spirit is our Heavenly Father, Whose Title of "Father" is reserved for Him Only, as He is The Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which no human ought to appropriate for himself, and which should not be used for that person as an honorary title, nor for that matter should the title "Reverend": "He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: (H)holy and (R)everend is (H)is name(title)" (Ps._111:9 AV; my capitalization and superscript).

When Jesus said this:

"And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven" (Mt. 23:9 AV).

I believe this is in the same sense, that one should not accord a religious luminary the title "Father," which is reserved only for our Heavenly Father. That does not mean that one ought not call his/her earthly progenitor the familiar respectful term "father."

If I were to corral a person and convince him/her of the need for a Savior, see that one become a disciple, and lead him/her in that way to the stage of spiritual young adulthood in that he/she had practically overcome wickedness in their lifestyle, I might think of myself as that one's spiritual father and he(she) a "Timothy" and be thought of as such. But it would be wrong to permit the title "Father" to be even thought of, let alone assumed.

That would be a bit over the top, eh?

659 posted on 07/02/2018 6:45:27 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: MHGinTN

How about the little medals they hang from their rear-view mirrors? Mariolatry?


660 posted on 07/02/2018 6:51:12 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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