Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: Bryanw92

“They had been lying to me to push their social justice, “Jesus was a Socialist” agenda! They need you to be in fear for your soul constantly to be able to keep asking you, “ARE YOU DOING ENOUGH?””

That has NOTHING to do with Arminian thought. No one in our Baptist church believes they earn salvation, or need to work for it, or need to “do enough” - because Jesus paid it all.

But that also has nothing to do with Calvinism, which teaches God does salvation TO you irresistibly, and forces one to believe and cheerfully forces another to go to hell.

Predestination has nothing to do with WHO gets saved, apart from God knowing in advance. It has to do with the destination of the saved. And those “In Christ” are predestined to become sons. Not automatons, irresistibly forced by God to do anything.

“These Arminian pastors don’t believe anything but to keep em scared, keep em giving, keep em working.”

Absolute lie. Sorry, but it is an absolute lie.


1. Do you believe that Jesus died for every human being?
• If you answered yes to the question, then at least you agree with one of the central tenets of Arminianism, and you would be generally unwelcome in Calvinist circles
• This is perhaps the most glaring issue which divides Calvinism and Arminianism
• Most Calvinists believe that Jesus died only for certain people, although there is some debate whether Calvin himself held this view
• If you believe that Jesus died only for those who would eventually believe, then you truly are a Calvinist and not an Arminian

2. Do you believe that humans are so depraved that they can do nothing to earn salvation and that they cannot choose to believe in Jesus without the intervention of God’s grace?
• If you answered yes, then you agree with Arminius and Arminianism
• Calvinists affirm the same doctrine, but often claim that Arminians do not, despite near, if not complete unanimity among Arminian theologians in affirming the doctrine

3. Do you believe that a person can resist the convicting power of God’s grace?
• If you answered yes, then again you affirm another one of the central tenets of Arminianism, as reflected in Jesus’ words, “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, how often I have longed to gather your children together…but you were not willing” (Matt 23:37)
• Calvinists argue that God has determined which individuals will believe; to make their faith possible, he calls them to salvation in such a way that their own wills are overpowered so that they cannot possibly resist the call to salvation
• Arminians believe that God truly wants every one to believe; but when God enables a person to believe, he does so in such a way that the individual still can resist the convicting power of the Spirit–faith is not a necessary outcome of God’s enabling grace

4. Do you believe that you are born again when you put your faith in Jesus?
• If you answered yes, then you hold to a major tenet of Arminianism and you probably are not a Calvinist
• Calvinists believe that God must first give a person new life to enable faith; without first being made to share the new life, they think that a person cannot believe
• Arminians argue that people are not given the gift of the new life until they believe
• Arminians hold that when a person believes, he is united with Christ and only then does he partake of the new life and is born again; a person does not share in the new life without first being united with Christ by faith, for “whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16)

More at: http://evangelicalarminians.org/survey-are-you-an-arminian-and-dont-even-know-it-2/


108 posted on 05/26/2018 3:47:13 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 102 | View Replies ]


To: Mr Rogers
With a few exceptions, I think you got it right, especially this one:

• Most Calvinists believe that Jesus died only for certain people, although there is some debate whether Calvin himself held this view.

Calvin did write in his Institutes that he believed in common grace. Hyper-Calvinists don't like to hear that even when you point them to the text.

114 posted on 05/26/2018 4:16:23 PM PDT by WASCWatch
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 108 | View Replies ]

To: Mr Rogers

That’s a very helpful post. Thanks.


117 posted on 05/26/2018 4:26:24 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 108 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson