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To: Bryanw92

If God absolutely predestines us to heaven or hell, then why bother with church, religion, the bible, anything.

There is nothing you can do about it.

Besides that, everything in the bible is a useless lie. The moral code given by God is useless. If God predestined you to hell, no amount of righteous living will save you.
If God predestined you to heaven, no amount of sin will condemn you.

Pure, true Calvinism is theologically bankrupt. And I don’t know why you would even argue that, because it won’t matter.


10 posted on 05/26/2018 7:37:20 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24

>>There is nothing you can do about it.

Its not about what you can do about it. It is about what you can do WITH it. The bible, church, etc is not an insurance policy, a Get Out Of Hell Free card. Your mindset is unworshipful. It is the mindset of “OK God. I did what you want. You owe me!”

>>The moral code given by God is useless.

Again, if a moral code has to give YOU something then you are morally bankrupt.

>>If God predestined you to hell, no amount of righteous living will save you.
>>If God predestined you to heaven, no amount of sin will condemn you.

He didn’t predestine you to hell. He just gave you a set of rules and you broke them. You break them every day. Jesus told you that.

>>Pure, true Calvinism is theologically bankrupt. And I don’t know why you would even argue that, because it won’t matter.

When I was a Methodist, we had classes on why Calvinism is wrong. the pastor would preach at least once a year on the evils of TULIP. The “theologically bankrupt” charge was common, yet when I began to question it and their proofs, I was told to just accept it and know that they are right because it is all part of the “mystery” (the very definition of theological bankruptcy). When I went to a Calvinist for answers, he gladly explained (with scripture) where Arminianism is wrong and then proved (again, with scripture and not just a few out of context proofs) why Jesus, Paul, and Calvin were right.


36 posted on 05/26/2018 8:46:47 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Bryan24
"...no amount of righteous living will save you."

Amen!

51 posted on 05/26/2018 9:51:12 AM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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