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To: Bryan24

>>There is nothing you can do about it.

Its not about what you can do about it. It is about what you can do WITH it. The bible, church, etc is not an insurance policy, a Get Out Of Hell Free card. Your mindset is unworshipful. It is the mindset of “OK God. I did what you want. You owe me!”

>>The moral code given by God is useless.

Again, if a moral code has to give YOU something then you are morally bankrupt.

>>If God predestined you to hell, no amount of righteous living will save you.
>>If God predestined you to heaven, no amount of sin will condemn you.

He didn’t predestine you to hell. He just gave you a set of rules and you broke them. You break them every day. Jesus told you that.

>>Pure, true Calvinism is theologically bankrupt. And I don’t know why you would even argue that, because it won’t matter.

When I was a Methodist, we had classes on why Calvinism is wrong. the pastor would preach at least once a year on the evils of TULIP. The “theologically bankrupt” charge was common, yet when I began to question it and their proofs, I was told to just accept it and know that they are right because it is all part of the “mystery” (the very definition of theological bankruptcy). When I went to a Calvinist for answers, he gladly explained (with scripture) where Arminianism is wrong and then proved (again, with scripture and not just a few out of context proofs) why Jesus, Paul, and Calvin were right.


36 posted on 05/26/2018 8:46:47 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Bryanw92

I don’t think you even understand what you are saying. I KNOW you don’t understand what I posted.

If God had determined that the next child born in Dallas, Texas is going to hell (THAT, is predestination), then that child might as well live any way it wants, never go to church, never study a bible, just live like an animal.

I did not, and do not, suggest that we can determine our eternal salvation by our self. Only by the mercy and grace of God has Salvation been offered to us through the blood of Jesus Christ.

But a True Calvinist argues that your eternal destiny has already been determined. If that is true, Jesus wasted a lot time instructing us how to live and what I must do to inherit eternal life. He would have told the rich, young ruler that there is nothing he could do, it was already determined.

Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

If it is predetermined, Peter was wasting his breath, too.

I see no reason whatsoever for you to even be discussing this because it is a waste of time. There is nothing you or I can do to change your, or my, eternal destiny.

If you are a True Calvinist. I suspect you are not.


72 posted on 05/26/2018 11:35:21 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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