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The Election of Francis Was Orchestrated [Msgr. Livi]
Gloria TV ^ | 4/25/18

Posted on 04/30/2018 4:56:11 PM PDT by marshmallow

Francis Was Elected To Carry Out a Lutheran Reform

Monsignor Antonio Livi, a former dean and professor at the Lateran University in Rome, formerly incardinated in the Opus Dei, told Gloria.tv in an exclusive interview that Pope Francis was elected to carry out a – quote – “reform in the Lutheran sense”. According to Livi, in the new Lutheran church-to-come the pope, the bishops and the priests will not be anymore an expression of the sacred but of politics.

The Term “People” Is A Rhetorical Image

Monsignor Livi criticizes the term “people” which Pope Francis loves to apply to the Church. Livi points out that “people” is a mere rhetorical image. Quote, “The people is made up of a multitude of different persons, therefore nobody ever knows what ‘the people’ wants.” And, “There are those in the people who are full of faith like Padre Pio and those who have no faith at all.”

The Election of Francis Was Orchestrated

On the basis of many historical witnesses Monsignor Livi is -quote – “absolutely certain” that the election of Pope Francis was orchestrated. He also points out that it is absurd to claim that Francis is pope because the Holy Spirit wanted so. Quote, “The Holy Spirit inspires everybody so that they may do good, but not everybody who is inspired by the Holy Spirit, effectivly does good.”

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To: marshmallow
The way Frankie works is to get his prog-buds to speak for him, to have meetings that are entirely controlled by him thereby marginalizing all the conservatives. With his enemies on the sideline, he merely nods his head in the direction of his buds who are working to tear down the Church.

Why does he do this? He doesn't want to be seen as the guy dismantling the Church. So, he makes sure he makes it look like the Magisterium is making all the changes.

How quaint.

21 posted on 04/30/2018 8:16:50 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: Bob Ireland
In "Dictator Pope" there are three instances in the book where the author states that it is highly likely that Peter's Pence money re-routed to the Hillary Clinton campaign.

And, Frankie was really upset that Donald Trump was elected.

22 posted on 04/30/2018 8:20:32 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: DaleGrrl

When Benedict left, it didn’t make sense to me. JPII was a lovely example of carrying on despite frailties and illness.

From the very beginning of the vote for him, I have suspected that Jorge was the “False Pope” prophesied long ago.


23 posted on 04/30/2018 8:57:02 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Slyfox
***Frankie was really upset that Donald Trump was elected***

Yup... don't know how many pence Peter had - but probably not enough for Hildebeest!

24 posted on 04/30/2018 8:58:38 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Slyfox

You realize in trash gossip books like that, “highly likely” means “definitely untrue.”


25 posted on 04/30/2018 9:03:48 PM PDT by Marchmain (hagan lio?!?)
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To: Marchmain

You read the book and tell me what it says.


26 posted on 04/30/2018 9:12:29 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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To: marshmallow

bookmark


27 posted on 04/30/2018 9:21:31 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: marshmallow

As I understand it, Red Frankie was the runner-up when Ratzinger was elected.


28 posted on 05/01/2018 4:01:15 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Salvation
I’ve long held the opinion that this selection was NOT inspired by the Holy Spirit.

One of your fellow Roman Catholics has said popes are not chosen by the Holy Spirit.

29 posted on 05/01/2018 5:35:34 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Citizen Soldier
I think it means he would reform the Catholic Church by diminishing or deleting many Catholic beliefs and maybe changing or watering down our beliefs. He would make it more like Protestant churches. He is so political and getting rid of certain Catholic beliefs I believe are his goals.

You are in error to lump all "Protestant" churches into one bucket.

If you look at the positions of the Evangelical churches vs mainline "Protestant" churches, Evangelicals are far more likely to hold Biblically based positions.

If you look at polling data about various aspects of church life Evangelicals most closely adhere to Biblical standards/practices more than mainline "Protestant" churches and Roman Catholicism.

30 posted on 05/01/2018 5:38:53 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: marshmallow

I have no doubt in my mind this is correct.
The people who did it had an agenda, which is not our agenda.


31 posted on 05/01/2018 8:19:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
I have heard church officials imply that Soros and Obama were behind Benedict’s stepping down and Francis election. However, there is a paucity of proof of this that I’ve found.


It's not well known, but Barak Obama got his start as a cummunity orgainizer in Chicago with the Brernardin Era Catholic Church

The church funded Obama’s Alinsky education and he worked with the radical homosexual subversive faction of the Chicago Catholic Church to push their agenda to radically transform the church and it's teachings

Obama was especially good at intimidating people who opposed the radical agenda by orgainizing groups of thugs to “ protest” in front of opponents homes and businesses at all hours of the day and night - with explicit threats of violence against opponents friends and family if they did not support Obamas agenda

Obama later used this same tactic to intimidate political and business leaders ( especially CEOs) using his Occupy Wall Street, Organizing for America, ACORA, Antifa and BLM thugs

Obama is very well connected to subversive homosexual faction of the Catholic Church and Pope Benedict was hated by the Homosexual factions of the Catholic Church so it is very plausible that Obama and Soros were players in pressuring Pope Benedict to step aside

32 posted on 05/01/2018 8:38:55 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

Those are connections that I was not aware of. Thank you.


33 posted on 05/01/2018 10:49:47 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: ealgeone

What I meant is that this pope wants to water down exclusively Catholic teachings like the Communion as the actual body of Christ, confession with A priest as a representative of Jesus, and veneration of Saints, etc. and make the Catholic Church more Protestant like.


34 posted on 05/02/2018 1:00:08 PM PDT by Citizen Soldier ("And I was born to pull turnips!" Demelza Poldark)
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To: YogicCowboy

**“The Holy Spirit inspires everybody so that they may do good, but not everybody who is inspired by the Holy Spirit, effectively does good.”**


35 posted on 05/02/2018 1:36:12 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ealgeone

*&*“The Holy Spirit inspires everybody so that they may do good, but not everybody who is inspired by the Holy Spirit, effectively does good.”**


36 posted on 05/02/2018 1:37:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“The smoke of Satan has entered the sanctuary” attributed to Pope Paul VI, 1972.


37 posted on 05/02/2018 1:50:50 PM PDT by Robwin (very)
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To: Salvation
*&*“The Holy Spirit inspires everybody so that they may do good, but not everybody who is inspired by the Holy Spirit, effectively does good.”**

Well, per one of your own RCs don't even have that benefit when choosing a pope.

38 posted on 05/02/2018 2:13:47 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Citizen Soldier
What I meant is that this pope wants to water down exclusively Catholic teachings like the Communion as the actual body of Christ, confession with A priest as a representative of Jesus, and veneration of Saints, etc. and make the Catholic Church more Protestant like.

You continue make the error of lumping all "Protestant" churches together.

39 posted on 05/02/2018 2:15:18 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone; Citizen Soldier
Definition of protestant
1 Protestant
a : any of a group of German princes and cities presenting a defense of freedom of conscience against an edict of the Diet of Speyer in 1529 intended to suppress the Lutheran movement
b : a member of any of several church denominations denying the universal authority of the Pope and affirming the Reformation principles of justification by faith alone, the priesthood of all believers, and the primacy of the Bible as the only source of revealed truth; broadly : a Christian not of a Catholic or Eastern church

Yet you claim you're not a protestant. Hypocrisy at its finest.


40 posted on 05/02/2018 5:32:00 PM PDT by ebb tide (Remember Alfie and Charlie; boycott the UK.)
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