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OSV.com ^ | 03-14-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/21/2018 9:30:28 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: editor-surveyor

JESUS is the first-fruits, moron.

And I’ve read the Bible in the original Greek and Hebrew. Have you? Or do you depend on your #FakeRabbi to tell you what to think?

The entire book of Galatians proves that Rood is a fake, considering that the entire book is all about how believers in Jesus DON’T have to obey the old Jewish codes, and in fact, it’s the servants of the devil who demand that of Christians.

As Paul says, these false teachers should be chopping their own balls off.


481 posted on 04/24/2018 12:20:11 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: editor-surveyor

Yeah, the massive evidence is that Rood is a charlatan and a liar whose only theological training came from a sexual predator. And the only one speaking to him is the devil.

#ChangeMyMind


482 posted on 04/24/2018 12:21:47 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin

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You continually speak out of your own deep willful ignorance.

The evidence is out there for everyone to see, world wide.

You argue with the clear work of the Holy Spirit, and in so doing blaspheme the Holy Spirit.
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483 posted on 04/24/2018 12:25:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Luircin

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The four and twenty elders are also the first fruits.

Study much?
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484 posted on 04/24/2018 12:26:49 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Bahahahah. Again.

You’re talking Revelation 14, right?

Yeah, that completely contradicts your point. You said that the ‘firstfruits’ would be the only ones to be saved, whereas the chapter actually implies, and later states outright that they are only the first to be saved among a great multitude that no one can count.

In other words, you continue to be horribly ignorant about even the most basic words of Scripture.

Following a #FakeRabbi will do that to you.


485 posted on 04/24/2018 12:36:39 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: editor-surveyor

Hey, you’re the one blaspheming the Holy Spirit by demanding obedience to Jewish laws that the Holy Spirit, though the Apostle Paul, very specifically said were NOT required for salvation.

You’re the apostate and false prophet here.

And you’re the one going to Hell if you continue with your diabolical cult.


486 posted on 04/24/2018 12:37:56 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin

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>> “ Jewish laws ?”

What exactly are “Jewish Laws?

Judaism didn’t even exist until a millenium after Sinai!

You have zero understanding of the word!

Judaism is Phariseeism, which is the unbearable burden Yeshua demolished by his miracles.

It appears that you conflate Judaism with the Covenant.

Judaism is man made religion, just like christianity. The Covenant is Yehova’s “Perfect Law of Liberty” as James wrote. It is Yehova’s Righteousness.

Seek ye first the Kingdom of Yehova, and His Righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you!
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487 posted on 04/24/2018 12:47:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

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488 posted on 04/24/2018 1:08:03 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: editor-surveyor

Jewish laws, ie, the laws that #FakeRabbi Rood is demanding of you. The Old Covenant is no longer in effect; it’s fulfilled in Jesus, and your demands to keep obeying it are outright Satanic, as the Holy Spirit says through the Apostle Paul.

Oh, and incidentally: “Remind them of these things, and charge them before God not to quarrel about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers.”

You continue to blaspheme the Holy Spirit by denying entire books of inspired Scripture in order to keep defending your #fakerabbi.


489 posted on 04/24/2018 1:08:11 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: MHGinTN
By faith I follow all the commandments

Excellent! Common ground we can work with.

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490 posted on 04/24/2018 3:25:05 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: Steelfish; ealgeone; Luircin; daniel1212; metmom; MHGinTN

Hey steely,

It’s been several days since you claimed there were thousands of Protestant theologians who become catholic.

I asked for a list, but you went quiet

Where is your list of “thousands of Protestant theologians” who have joined the Roman church??

I’d very much like to see it, because it doesn’t sound legitimate to me.

Have you found it yet?? Please post.


491 posted on 04/24/2018 3:29:57 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: Luircin

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>> “Jewish laws, ie, the laws that #FakeRabbi Rood is demanding of you” <<

Proof of insanity!

Why do you insist on talking about things of which you have zero knowledge?

You know nothing of the Bible, Michael Rood, me, Judaism, or anything else that you post about.

Literally everything I have posted is scriptural, and everything you reject and vilify is scripture.

According to Jeremiah, the old covenant and the renewed covenant are the same, and both of them are not with any imaginary ‘church,’ but with the House of Judah, and the House of Israel.

If you wish to share in the benefits of the covenant (eternal life) you must sojourn with Israel. There is no other path.

The renewal of the covenant was the pouring of Yeshua’s blood on the mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant.

That is what happened exactly when the Roman soldier pierced Yeshua’s side and blood and water flowed out of the wound and down through the crack in the rock into the grotto below where the Ark was hidden by Jeremiah.

The Holy Spirit commissioned the late Ron Wyatt to prove exactly that two decades ago. The very same Ron Wyatt that also located the Red Sea crossing, and Noah’s Ark.

And no, the Holy Spirit didn’t communicate with any of your fellow “inherited lies” believers.

It is constantly you that blasphemes the HS denying scripture, and twisting its words.

The Holy Spirit also led Jim and Penny Caldwell on a hike through the Arabian desert to the real location of Mt. Sinai, the mountain burned with fire when the covenant was delivered to Moses, and to the rock that Moses struck to bring water to his flock and their herds.

The Holy Spirit is kind of finiky in that He only leads believers, so he may not have even shown these fabulous things to you; you may be totally in the dark on these things.

Keep on cursing the believers with whom the HS does work if it sooths your feelings, and by all means do not study Rood’s Chronological Gospel teaching, another great work of the Holy Spirit, because it surely will only enrage you with the things it reveals.

Rabbis like you can be so depressing in your anger at your inability to control what Yeshua’s Sheep can see.

I don’t need to say ‘fake,’ cuz all Rabbis are as fake as you demonstrate yourself to be. Yeshua said so.
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492 posted on 04/24/2018 4:23:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: infool7
The point, at least for me is that we be as one, as our Dear Lord and Savior prayed we would be as He and the Father are one, unified against our one true enemy, the Devil, FIRST and bickering siblings SECOND if at all.

Hey, I'm all for the unity of the spirit in the bond of peace but one man's "bickering" is another's earnestly contending for the faith once delivered unto the saints. I don't think we should EVER compromise on the gospel for the sake of ecumenical unity. That WOULD be something the devil delights in!

To your beautiful and comforting passage from John. Does our gentle Lord force us to open the door upon which He knocks? And if we are free to open that door or leave it closed, are we not ourselves also free to shut it closed on Him again.

It is comforting and beautiful because it assures us of our eternal security we have been promised when we faith upon the Lord Jesus Christ. He knows His sheep and we know Him and we follow Him and He gives us eternal life and we shall never perish nor can we be plucked from His hands. That comforts me and I hope you as well.

Sadly, there is a perversion of the gospel that makes our eternal security dependent upon OUR deserving of it. We didn't and never can deserve, merit or work for eternity within the presence of the Almighty Triune Godhead. That's why it is by His GRACE that we are saved. No, He doesn't IMPOSE grace upon mankind but when He saves us, it is Him that keeps us. Jesus said he would lose NONE of those who came to Him nor will He cast them out. We are saved by grace and we are kept by that same grace. As a guarantee of that promise, He gives the Holy Spirit to indwell us and we are sealed UNTIL THE DAY OF REDEMPTION. If Jesus said NO ONE can pluck us from His hands - I think that includes ourselves.

This truth is worth arguing for. It's clarity is essential for all those who would seek to know the truth and the God of truth and He has ensured we know that through His revealed word.

493 posted on 04/24/2018 4:34:14 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Hey, please post proof of Noah’s ark, the ark of the covenant, etc.

I’m guessing you are believing this without proof, like most Rood claims.

Whaddaya got es???


494 posted on 04/24/2018 4:40:28 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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Are you joking?

This stuff is ancient history.

Wyatt’s family do have web sites about the stuff, and the videos of the charriots in the Red sea have been posted here multiple times, both Wyatt’s stuff and the copy-cat guy’s stuff too.

The Mt Sinai stuff is up on some of Roods sites, and it is also available at History Channel.

Just search Noah’s Ark Wyatt and I know it will pop up.

The Ark of the covenant of course cannot be viewed, only Wyatt hinself was able to go in there and live. The HS struck about a half dozen of the Sanhedrin’s Cohenim dead that tried to replicate Wyatt’s actions, and they had to summon him from Texas to dragg them out. (long time ago)

Red Sea videos: www.theredseacrossing.com
Password: redseafree

There may be stuff at michaelrood.tv and you will have to create a log-in to see the stuff there. I don’t know what may be up.


495 posted on 04/24/2018 5:06:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

“The Ark of the covenant of course cannot be viewed, only Wyatt hinself was able to go in there and live. The HS struck about a half dozen of the Sanhedrin’s Cohenim dead that tried to replicate Wyatt’s actions, and they had to summon him from Texas to dragg them out. (long time ago)”

So no evidence on that one?

Since Rood is not a credible source, I’ll have to google.


496 posted on 04/24/2018 5:10:09 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I just checked, the Red Sea Crossing and the Mt Sinai videos are up at michaelrood.com

Just scroll down a couple of clicks to an orange and yellow icon “A Rood Awakening from Israel”

They are the last 2 videos of that string.

As I said, y9ou will need to create a log-in with an email address and a password.


497 posted on 04/24/2018 5:19:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mark17

Amen. I rejoice in my salvation and will never go back to a religion that calls that a “sin of presumption”.


498 posted on 04/24/2018 5:22:25 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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LOL!

Rood is the most credible source there is.

The only source for the stuff he did with Stan Johnson’s “prophecy Club.”
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499 posted on 04/24/2018 5:23:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; aMorePerfectUnion
The Ark of the covenant of course cannot be viewed, only Wyatt himself was able to go in there and live. The HS struck about a half dozen of the Sanhedrin’s Cohenim dead that tried to replicate Wyatt’s actions, and they had to summon him from Texas to dragg them out. (long time ago)

How convenient.

Wyatt, the person making the claims, is the only one *allowed* to go there by the Holy Spirit, so we'll just have to take his word for it.

Anyone believing that nonsense is a totally gullible fool.

It's way too much like Joseph Smith and his golden plates, that oooops, the angel took back before anyone else could see them.

Yup..

Sure.........

500 posted on 04/24/2018 5:33:01 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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