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OSV.com ^ | 03-14-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/21/2018 9:30:28 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It’s not pointless.

How can anyone presume that you are even marginally Christian if you repeatedly refuse to publicly acknowledge it’s most basic tenets?

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441 posted on 04/24/2018 8:49:55 AM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7
Thanks for the post infool7.

We see it differently.

If you've never come to saving faith, I do not consider you a Christian believer - but merely a participant in syncretic Christian paganism.

The most basic tenant of Christ is to believe by entrusting yourself to Him alone for salvation, apart from all your works and false merit.

If you miss this, you go to hell, regardless of whatever you believe intellectually.

442 posted on 04/24/2018 8:52:47 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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443 posted on 04/24/2018 9:11:04 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

As I said upthread, falsehood is falsehood even if everyone believes it, and truth is truth no matter how few people believe it. Albeit using more colorful language to make my point.

I certainly admire your willingness to put up with a stone wall for this long.

But there comes a point where you have to stop casting pearls before swine, even if it means that the other party thinks they ‘win’ because there’s no point in continuing.


444 posted on 04/24/2018 9:17:32 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin
But there comes a point where you have to stop casting pearls before swine, even if it means that the other party thinks they ‘win’ because there’s no point in continuing.

Yes, certainly. At this point, there is a clear refusal to seek truth and a retrenchment into the security of numbers and life experience.

None of which saves.

I don't like to see any go to hell, but it is up to God to open eyes.

445 posted on 04/24/2018 9:19:32 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Some plant, some water. God gives the growth.

Here’s praying that the Lord gives growth, but it’s nothing that either of us can control.


446 posted on 04/24/2018 9:21:31 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: infool7

There is only one basic tenet. You can find that ONE basic tenet in John 6. Don’t be like the audience who asked what work they needed to do to meet GOD’s requirement. When Jesus gave them the ONE thing they prattled for a sign. The One thing basic to what God requires did not suit their egos, so they weaseled for more. Look in John 6 for the ONE basic thing God with us told us GOD requires. Hint: it is found BEFORE the passage regarding bread and wine remembrance of His Cross gift to us/for us. Jesus gave a big hint also in John 3 speaking with Nicodemus. Can you find it, that ONE basic tenet?


447 posted on 04/24/2018 9:41:51 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN; aMorePerfectUnion
So in both your opinions there is no need to acknowledge the Holy Trinity or keep any of God's commandments?

You accuse me of not having a saving faith.

Your own personal man made up religion bears no resemblance Christianity whatsoever.

I dispute even the possibility that you have any idea of what it means to be Christian in the slightest.

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448 posted on 04/24/2018 10:09:28 AM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: MHGinTN
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The “Jewish customs” Paul spoke of are not any part of Yehova’s covenant!

They are 100% Takanot and Ma’assim of the pharisees.

Galatians 4:8-10 refers to the keeping of the Pharisee's unbearable burdensome nonsense.

Those sweet hopes that spring up in your unbelieving mind that Paul would be speaking of the eternal covenant were carefully placed there by the adversary.

Refer to Romans 2:13 where Paul correctly states that

“For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.”

James makes a similar declaration in his epistle, while John clearly states in his first epistle that the very definition of sin is the transgression of Torah. Your hopes will ultimately drag you into peerdition, repent!

449 posted on 04/24/2018 10:15:01 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: infool7
So in both your opinions there is no need to acknowledge the Holy Trinity or keep any of God's commandments?

You have to entrust yourself to Him alone to be saved. There is no extra. All Christians believe in the Triune God. All those who intellectually assent to the Triune God are not saved.

You accuse me of not having a saving faith.

I suspect, based on what you've written, you do not. God knows. Your refusal to seek truth reinforces this.

Your own personal man made up religion bears no resemblance Christianity whatsoever.

I can see why true saving faith would look that way to a cradle catholic who will not look outside what he is taught.

I dispute even the possibility that you have any idea of what it means to be Christian in the slightest.

You can dispute whatever you choose. You are not the one who decides. Christ is. His basis is spelled out in Scriputre.

I wish you salvation.


450 posted on 04/24/2018 10:18:30 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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You disagree with what I have learned from the scriptures that you declare to be ‘cultic’ in this thread.

Nothing that you have ever offered is based in scripture, but all in the hope of destroying Yehova’s covenant.

“Faith” is in every instance it is used in scripture the willing keeping of the covenant (the only covenant, that Yeshua sealed in his sinless blood)
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451 posted on 04/24/2018 10:20:16 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Luircin

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I hope that you are proud of your childish cute-say, because it will be repeated to you at the Great White Throne.
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452 posted on 04/24/2018 10:22:09 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
You disagree with what I have learned from the scriptures that you declare to be ‘cultic’ in this thread.

Entirely.

453 posted on 04/24/2018 10:24:13 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: editor-surveyor

Why, because Rood is God now? That explains so much of your inanity.

Rood is a cult leader, you’re a moron and a cultist, and you’re going to Hell for eternity.

Have fun.


454 posted on 04/24/2018 10:28:36 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

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Read your first sentence, and understand that the Holy Spirit was saying it to you.
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455 posted on 04/24/2018 10:31:01 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Read your

Your ideas and opinions are noted.

456 posted on 04/24/2018 10:32:41 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: Luircin

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You are at war with the obvious work of the Holy Spirit, and are blinded by the adversary.
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457 posted on 04/24/2018 10:33:51 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; aMorePerfectUnion

Bahahah, e-s thinks he’s the Holy Spirit now.

Tell me, did you read Ephesians 2, John 3, and Romans 3?

Or did you get too REEEE because I insulted your false prophet Rood?


458 posted on 04/24/2018 10:34:16 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin
your false prophet Rood?

#FakeRabbi

Gives it away every time.

459 posted on 04/24/2018 10:35:45 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Admiral Michael S. Rogers)
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To: editor-surveyor

Then explain to me why Scripture and Jesus say that salvation is by grace through faith and not works.

And your false god Rood says different.

You’re the one blaspheming Jesus; you’re the one Hellbound.

And I just find your Cultic worship of pathetic Rood hilarious.


460 posted on 04/24/2018 10:36:54 AM PDT by Luircin
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