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To: Cronos
Me too. Mohammedans, or sometimes Moslems. In any case, heathens whose god is not the God of the Bible. When I show them, their heads and their tempers blow out. One threatened me with death, a restaurant waiter who was ready to jump over the counter to get at me until they calmed him down.

He had tried to buddy up by telling me that his Allah was the same as my God. When I showed him in my pocket Bible that this was not possible, because Jesus was the Son of God, and that Allah had no sons, the contradiction turned him vocally abusive and wanted to take it outside.

So much for Mohammedanism as a peaceful religion. Nobody knew it, but my Peacemaker was the .45 Auto under my jacket. I was glad that other means prevailed. Insh'allah, eh?

42 posted on 03/27/2018 12:34:44 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1
He had tried to buddy up by telling me that his Allah was the same as my God. When I showed him in my pocket Bible that this was not possible, because Jesus was the Son of God, and that Allah had no sons, the contradiction turned him vocally abusive and wanted to take it outside.

Good on you. The made-up religion takes aspects of Christianity but is not the same

What is fascinating is that

  1. The word "Jesus" is used more times in the Quran (24 times) than the word "Muhammad" (4 times).

  2. "Muhammad" was originally a title meaning "the praise-worthy one" and was not a given name prior to the 7th century. So this was clearly the title given to a person. in fact if you read the times Mohammad is used in the Quran it shows
    1. "The praiseworthy one" is only a messenger
    2. "The Praiseworthy one" is the messenger of Allah...
    3. But those who believe in the revelation sent down to "the praiseworthy one"
    4. "The praiseworthy one" is the messenger of Allah


  3. The first time one hears of a "muhammad" or the Quran or Islam or Muslim is NOT at the time the Arabs supposedly conquered Egypt and Persia and Syria -- all HIGHLY LITERATE places that wrote down their hsitories. No, you read these words nearly a century later after the Ummayads were overthrown in 750 AD by the Abbassids

  4. The first biography of Mohammad is written more than one and a half century after this person allegedly lived.

  5. Prior to the "conquest" the Arabic tribes were already "Christian" - but Christian in the same sense that Jehovah Witneses are Christian - they were Gnostics or believed that Jesus was not God or was a lesser God etc etc. And these Arabs lived in the Roman Empire and the Persian Empire

  6. The "arabs" in the Hejaz were heterodox, believing in Arabic paganism but also with Gnostics, Nestorians, Ebionites (Jehovahs Witnesses like), Zoroastrians, Buddhists, even Hindus - and they had a large community of Jews - Medina was a Jewish city and 50 years prior to the alleged birth of "Muhammad" you had a Jewish King in Yemen slaughtering Christians and being overthrown by the Christian Axumite (Ethiopian) empire.

  7. The Quran has ben re-read in Aramaic - the lingua franca of the middle east from 700 BC to 700 AD and it reads as an Ebionite "Christian" text

To me this is clear that

The push back on Mohammadenism must start from this -- [point out that the belief is contradictory, that it is originating as a Christian heresy and fails even religious belief.

43 posted on 03/27/2018 2:23:26 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama's dislike of Assad is not based on his brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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