Nothing that you posted changes the fact that what you posted yesterday as your “shock” and “amazed” comment was directly dealt with in the passages I posted from the Baltimore Catechism and The Catechism Explained.
Thus, you should have known - if you were knowledgeable about the Catholic Faith - but you did not.
Thus, we can start the list your requested based upon your own posted paragraph:
List of SkyPilot’s Errors Concerning the Catholic Faith
1) Dec. 12, 2017: “I was shocked and amazed that Grace is actually the unearned and awesome gift of Christ...”
Error: SkyPilot insinuates that the Catholic Church taught otherwise (i.e. that Grace is not a gift of Christ.
Evidence of SkyPilot’s Error: Baltimore Catechism #3: Q. 456. What do you mean by grace? A. By grace I mean a supernatural gift of God bestowed on us, through the merits of Jesus Christ, for our salvation.
2) Dec. 12, 2017: “...who by His sacrifice and death I am justified.”
Error: SkyPilot erroneously insinuated that the Catholic Church teaches that we are justified by something other than grace won for us by Christ on the Cross.
Evidence of SkyPilot’s Error: As written in The Catechism Explained (1899):
2. The Holy Ghost dispenses the graces which Christ merited by the sacrifice of the cross.
The Holy Ghost produces nothing in addition to what Christ gained for us. He only increases and perfects that work of Christ; just as the sun when shining on a field does not sow new seed, but develops that which is already sown. A grace is a favor granted to a person who has, no claim to the favor of a sovereign grants a reprieve to a criminal under sentence of death, that reprieve is a grace. So, too, God acts with regard to man, granting Him numberless favors without any merit on the part of man (Rom. iii.24). These favors or graces may be temporal, such as health, riches, station; or spiritual, such as forgiveness of our sins. It is with the latter class of favors that we are dealing now, and it was to secure these for us that Christ consented to die on the cross.
At least two so far.
3) Dec. 13, 2017: “That is a bunch of hodge podge double speak.”
Error: SkyPilot literally created a paragraph out of texts drawn from the CCC by cutting entire passages, paragraph numbers. In other words, what was neatly and soundly laid out in the CCC was forced into a “hodge podge” by SkyPilot. SkyPilot even says, “You believe in that mess of a stew in the Catechism posted in the link above.” In reality, the passages on grace in the CCC are not a mess nor a stew, but discuss a series of issues attached to grace and its effects on us.
Evidence: the very link SkyPilot posted: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s1c3a2.htm
4) Dec. 13, 2017: “You, like most Catholics, don’t believe in real Grace.”
Error: First, SkyPilot is doing mind reading. Second, I do actually believe in “real Grace”.
Evidence: I believe grace transforms a person. I do not believe in the merely juridical like grace that some Protestants de facto believe in. I believe Christ’s grace is so powerful that it transforms our souls and lives making us literally more like Christ rather than just making us forensically acceptable to God. That’s REAL GRACE.
5) Dec. 13, 2017: “Not only does the RCC teach “Faith + Works” rather than Faith alone, the RCC teaches that you cannot know if you are saved until the point of your death.”
Error: SkyPilot suggests that the Catholic Church teaches about the gospel in a way and about salvation in a way that is at variance with truth.
Evidence: SkyPilot has repeatedly touted a nominal belief in sola scriptura. Yet, although a nominal believer in sola scriptura, he ignores passages that show:
1) We are saved by grace which we receive for both faith and works. https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/faith-and-works-0
2) As scripture tells us, and remember SkyPilot believes in sola scriptura, we are saved, being saved and will be saved. Salvation is not absolutely assured.
“”Are you saved?” asks the Fundamentalist. The Catholic should reply: “As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:18, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13).”
https://www.catholic.com/tract/assurance-of-salvation Even not all Protestants believe in absolute assurance. Example: https://www.amazon.com/Believers-Conditional-Security-Eternal-Refuted/dp/0963907689
6) Dec. 13, 2017: “Again, that isn’t even remotely what the Bible teaches about Grace and Salvation.”
Error: SkyPilot says the following is not Biblical “even remotely”: “1022 Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven-through a purification 594 or immediately,595 — or immediate and everlasting damnation.596”
Evidence:
“Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death”
Hebrews 9:27; 2 Corinthians 5:10.
“in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven”
Again, Hebrews 9:27; 2 Corinthians 5:10.
“through a purification 594 or immediately,595 — or immediate and everlasting damnation.596”
https://enterthenarrowgate.org/documents/Purgatory%20purification%20after%20death%20by%20fire.pdf
Thus, there’s plenty of evidence that the statement and everything in it are perfectly Biblical. The error is entirely SkyPilot’s.
Wrong. The RCC does not teach Biblical Grace. When I realized I was saved by grace, and not my own works/justification/sacraments/deeds, etc. - I was shocked and amazed by Christ's gift.
Thus, you should have known - if you were knowledgeable about the Catholic Faith - but you did not.
I posted the links to the RCC Catechism and pointed out the differences, but you are unable to discern these.
Error: SkyPilot insinuates that the Catholic Church taught otherwise (i.e. that Grace is not a gift of Christ.
The RCC says it is a gift, and then (in black and white) follows that with a bunch of nonsense and lies. I posted them. There is "this" grace and "that" grace....all of un-Biblical.
SkyPilot erroneously insinuated that the Catholic Church teaches that we are justified by something other than grace won for us by Christ on the Cross.
Because the RCC teaches EXACTLY that error!
And you had a hissy fit because I excerpted paragraphs with .... between them for brevity. As if I was making things up from the RCC Catechism. Not true, and you know it.
Here is what your own Catechism says:
1993 Justification establishes cooperation between God's grace and man's freedom. On man's part it is expressed by the assent of faith to the Word of God, which invites him to conversion, and in the cooperation of charity with the prompting of the Holy Spirit who precedes and preserves his assent: When God touches man's heart through the illumination of the Holy Spirit, man himself is not inactive while receiving that inspiration, since he could reject it; and yet, without God's grace, he cannot by his own free will move himself toward justice in God's sight.42 1994 Justification is the most excellent work of God's love made manifest in Christ Jesus and granted by the Holy Spirit. It is the opinion of St. Augustine that "the justification of the wicked is a greater work than the creation of heaven and earth," because "heaven and earth will pass away but the salvation and justification of the elect . . . will not pass away."43 He holds also that the justification of sinners surpasses the creation of the angels in justice, in that it bears witness to a greater mercy. 1995 The Holy Spirit is the master of the interior life. By giving birth to the "inner man,"44 justification entails the sanctification of his whole being: Just as you once yielded your members to impurity and to greater and greater iniquity, so now yield your members to righteousness for sanctification. . . . But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the return you get is sanctification and its end, eternal life.45
That is NOT justification based on Grace alone, through Faith alone. It is a bunch of nonsense and adds to God's Word.
Woe to those who do that.
Error: SkyPilot literally created a paragraph out of texts drawn from the CCC by cutting entire passages, paragraph numbers.
I even posted the link for you above the excerpt, and still you are complaining.
Second, I do actually believe in “real Grace”.
No you don't. Not if you are buying the RCC teaching on Grace.
Error: SkyPilot suggests that the Catholic Church teaches about the gospel in a way and about salvation in a way that is at variance with truth. Evidence: SkyPilot has repeatedly touted a nominal belief in sola scriptura. Yet, although a nominal believer in sola scriptura, he ignores passages that show: 1) We are saved by grace which we receive for both faith and works. https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/faith-and-works-0
ERROR yourself! Lol!
James 2:24 is the often passage that Catholics cite to "prove" we are not saved by faith alone, but it is Faith+Works.
This passage was at the heart of the Reformation, and why Luther was excommunicated.
https://www.ligonier.org/blog/faith-and-works/
And this passage from that link says it best:
"What James is saying is this: If a person says he has faith, but he gives no outward evidence of that faith through righteous works, his faith will not justify him. Martin Luther, John Calvin, or John Knox would absolutely agree with James. We are not saved by a profession of faith or by a claim to faith. That faith has to be genuine before the merit of Christ will be imputed to anybody. You can’t just say you have faith. True faith will absolutely and necessarily yield the fruits of obedience and the works of righteousness. Luther was saying that those works don’t add to that person’s justification at the judgment seat of God. But they do justify his claim to faith before the eyes of man. James is saying, not that a man is justified before God by his works, but that his claim to faith is shown to be genuine as he demonstrates the evidence of that claim of faith through his works."
By claiming that we are saved only by Faith+Works - you and the RCC are telling people "God owes me!"
Rubbish. And blasphemy.
Error: SkyPilot says the following is not Biblical “even remotely”: “1022 Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven-through a purification 594 or immediately,595 — or immediate and everlasting damnation.596”
You think that Hebrews 9:27 means the RCC is correct that we cannot know we are saved?
Hebrews 9:27 - 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Death is each of our lot. We are all appointed to die. Once we die, we do not suffer death again. Just as Christ died for us, His sacrifice atoned for our sins. Moreover, there are two judgments: one for the believer in Christ (the Bema seat), and another for the unbeliever (The Great White Throne Judgment). A believer will suffer loss or gain, but it has nothing to do with Salvation whatsoever. They are saved by Grace, through Faith, from Hell. THAT is what 2 Corinthians 5:10 says:
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
Not that our Works save us!!!
A Christian is free from the bondage of death because Christ's death has removed our sin from us. Read Colossians 2:11-14.
11 In him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not performed by human hands. Your whole self ruled by the flesh[a] was put off when you were circumcised by[b] Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead. 13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross.
The Roman Catholic Church does not teach the Truth regarding Scripture.
They twist it, just as you have done, in order to confuse, to malign, and to lead people astray.
Blind guides.