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To: vladimir998

It’s got nothing to do with numbers. Catholics love them so graven images. So it was either give up the graven images or drop the commandment. They dropped commandment. As for the Information Age, it works in my favor, not yours, since anyone with eyes can see:

“The Roman Catholic revision is obvious: The Vatican eliminates the second commandment against idolatry, and subdivides the tenth commandment against covetousness in order to keep the number of commandments at ten.”


484 posted on 12/01/2017 10:05:50 AM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: sparklite2

Let’s examine your errors one at a time.

“It’s got nothing to do with numbers.”

Clearly it does have something to do with numbers since: 1) the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20 (and again in Deuteronomy 5:4-20) are NOT enumerated, but elsewhere we are told there are TEN and we know that not all of them begin with “Thou shall not” so that doesn’t help us in the enumeration of them as ten distinct laws. It does not bode well that your first sentence is your first error.

“Catholics love them so graven images.”

And Lutherans too? I mean since they use the same numbering as Catholics that would have to be the case wouldn’t it? Or, more likely, you’re simply wrong. After all the Eastern Orthodox WHO VENERATE IMAGES ALL THE TIME have the same numbering you do and not the same one Catholics have. That pretty much shoots you’re obviously biased reasoning all to hell now doesn’t it? Thus, we see that the only thing that could have led to your second sentence is an error in reasoning on your part.

“So it was either give up the graven images or drop the commandment. They dropped commandment.”

But they didn’t. It’s right there in the Catechism of the Catholic Church right after paragraph 2051. Here, I’ll include a link to it and this will demonstrably prove you wrong - which was inevitable of course: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/command.htm

“As for the Information Age, it works in my favor, not yours, since anyone with eyes can see:”

Well, no one with the ability to reason will see it that way since all you’re doing is cutting and pasting from an anti-Catholic webpage that posts the same falsehoods you do:

“The Roman Catholic revision is obvious: The Vatican eliminates the second commandment against idolatry, and subdivides the tenth commandment against covetousness in order to keep the number of commandments at ten.”

Here’s the anti-Catholic webpage you refused to link to. Perhaps you wanted to hide something? http://www.teachingtheword.org/apps/articles/web/articleid/64839/columnid/5444/default.asp

Now, let’s look at the errors of what you cut and pasted without attribution:

“The Roman Catholic revision is obvious: The Vatican eliminates the second commandment against idolatry, and subdivides the tenth commandment against covetousness in order to keep the number of commandments at ten.”

Except it’s ALL right here in the Catechism of the Catholic Church: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/command.htm So, why would they lie when it is so obvious that it is a lie? And remember, it was St. Augustine, NOT THE VATICAN, that first numbered them as we have them now. So why does your anti-Catholic webpage say it was the “Vatican”???

It’s the Information Age. You can try to hide sources, but they can be found.


490 posted on 12/01/2017 1:50:04 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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