Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide
These personal attacks from e-s are becoming quite tiresome. Yesterday it was calling me satanic; today it’s calling the entire forum satanic?
“One day or another, as long as it is the Lord’s.” ~St. Paul
Another falsehood taught by Rood.
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So you plan to stand at the GWT and call Yeshua’s attention to a statement by Paul that you abuse here?
You’re doing a great job of making my points.
I plan to depend on the grace of the Lord Jesus who has promised salvation for all who believe.
It’s not my fault that some people *coughRoodcough* can’t even read the plain text of the Bible and have to scream ‘SATANIC!’ at everyone who points out the contradictions between what Jesus taught and what they teach.
Ephesians 2, e-s. Ephesians 2.
It’s been quoted here enough that salvation is by grace through faith.
Of course, I have no idea what your definition of ‘faith’ is other than just another works-based religion.
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Believing is not intellectual belief !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Belief is as John has said in his first epistle:
Walking as he walked. obeying as he obeyed.
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It is made plain in almost every epistle in the NT that salvation is through obedience, and grace is simply Yehova’s willingness to accept confession,.
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And as Paul and Peter make plain, there comes a point where he stops accepting confession that is frivolous.
Do you have any idea what the definition of ‘faith’ even is?
Faith IS nothing more than believing in the promises of God, and on top of that, said that works are prepared for us AFTER we have faith, not as part of faith.
Ephesians 2, AGAIN.
You, on the other hand, are preaching works. Paul specifically said that salvation is NOT by works many times.
“It is made plain in almost every epistle in the NT that salvation is through obedience,”
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WRONG!
*Sigh*
“But[c] God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— 6 and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.”
“21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— 22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.”
” For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30 since God is one—who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith.”
Have you even read the Bible? You know, like EVER?
Have you even read Paul’s epistle to the Galatians? You know, the epistle where Paul strictly comes down on salvation NOT depending on obedience to Jewish law, unlike what Rood claims.
For pity’s sake, man. Are you going to provide any evidence for your claims at ALL, or are you just going to call anyone who contradicts you satanic without giving any reason to believe you?
... he’s in a cult, with a pretend rabbi that was in a cult, then started his own cult... so there’s that.
Are you gonna call St. Paul a heretic too because he proclaimed salvation by grace and not works?
I would think that denying the central doctrine of the faith is a great deal more serious than whining about a two year old post.
And besides, I’m not calling him a fool; he made himself into a fool by calling the Apostle Paul a heretic.
Are you going to do the same now?
Oh hey, look who didn’t read the context.
I said: “The Apostle says that salvation is by grace through faith.”
Him: “Only that heretic Luther and his fellow travelers believe that!”
The Apostle Paul: “By grace you have been saved, through faith.”
Logic much?
Yeah... yeah... that’s calling the Apostle Paul a heretic, all right. Just because he did so out of ignorance doesn’t mean he didn’t do it.
Oh, and, isn’t accusing me of lying against the rules? Tsk tsk tsk!
Tsk tsk tsk.
Trying to back out of it now isn’t gonna work.
I stand by my statement that ebb called the Apostle Paul a heretic because plain logic and Scripture is on my side.
If A=B and B=C, then A=C.
I quoted the Apostle. Ebb denied it and said the only people who believe in what the Apostle said are heretics.
Therefore he called the Apostle Paul a heretic.
Ha. Ha. Ha.
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