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Protestantism, Modernism, Atheism
Crisis Magazine ^ | November 28, 2017 | Julia Meloni

Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide

“The reality of the apostasy of faith in our time rightly and profoundly frightens us,” said Cardinal Burke in honor of Fatima’s centenary.

In 1903, Pope St. Pius X declared himself “terrified” by humanity’s self-destructive apostasy from God: “For behold they that go far from Thee shall perish” (Ps. 72:27). How much more “daunting,” said Cardinal Burke, is today’s “widespread apostasy.”

In 1910, St. Pius X condemned the movement for a “One-World Church” without dogmas, hierarchy, or “curb for the passions”—a church which, “under the pretext of freedom,” would impose “legalized cunning and force.” How much more, said Cardinal Burke, do today’s “movements for a single government of the world” and “certain movements with the Church herself” disregard sin and salvation?

In Pascendi, St. Pius X named the trajectory toward the “annihilation of all religion”: “The first step … was taken by Protestantism; the second … by [the heresy of] Modernism; the next will plunge headlong into atheism.”

So let us, said Cardinal Burke, heed Fatima’s call for prayer, penance, and reparation. Let us be “agents” of the triumph of Mary’s Immaculate Heart.

A few weeks after that speech, the Vatican announced its shining tribute to the Protestant revolution: a golden stamp with Luther and Melanchthon at the foot of the cross, triumphantly supplanting the Blessed Virgin and St. John.

Bishop Athanasius Schneider has asked how the Vatican can call Luther a “witness to the gospel” when he “called the Mass … a blasphemy” and “the papacy an invention of Satan.” The signatories of the filial correction have expressed “wonderment and sorrow” at a statue of Luther in the Vatican—and documented the “affinity” between “Luther’s ideas on law, justification, and marriage” and Pope Francis’s statements.

At a 2016 joint “commemoration” of the Protestant revolution, Pope Francis expressed “joy” for its myriad “gifts.” He and pro-abortion Lutherans with female clergy jointly declared that “what unites us is greater than what divides us.” Together they “raise[d]” their “voices” against “violence.”   They prayed for the conversion of those who exploit the earth. They declared the “goal” of receiving the Eucharist “at one table” to express their “full unity.”

In Martin Luther: An Ecumenical Perspective, Cardinal Kasper confirms that the excommunicated, apostate monk is now a “common church father,” a new St. Francis of Assisi. This prophet of the “new evangelization” was “forced” into calling the pope the Antichrist after his “call for repentance was not heard.” But Kasper finds ecumenical hope in Luther’s “statement that he would…kiss the feet of a pope who allows and acknowledges his gospel.”

Kasper says Pope Francis’s Evangelii Gaudium, “without mentioning him by name,” makes Luther’s concerns “stand in the center.”

So it’s Luther’s “gospel of grace and mercy” behind, apparently, the high disdain for “self-absorbed promethean neopelagianis[ts]” plagued by a “soundness of doctrine” that’s “narcissistic and authoritarian” (EG 94).

So it’s Luther—the bizarre protagonist of “ecumenical unity”—behind the demand for a “conversion of the papacy” that gives “genuine doctrinal authority” to episcopal conferences (EG 32). Sandro Magister says the pope is already creating a “federation of national Churches endowed with extensive autonomy” through liturgical decentralization.

So it’s Luther behind the demand to “accept the unruly freedom of the word, which accomplishes what it wills in ways that surpass our…ways of thinking” (EG 22). Kasper says Luther’s faith in the “self-implementation of the word of God” gave him a heroic “openness to the future.”

Ultimately, Kasper’s Luther—a prophet of “openness” to futurity, a “Catholic reformer” waiting for a sympathetic pope—emerges as a symbolic father for Modernism’s struggle to change the Church from within. Modernism falsely claims that God evolves with history—making truth utterly mutable. So Kasper the Modernist says dogmas can be “stupid” and Church structures can spring from “ideology” and denying the Eucharist to adulterers because of “one phrase” from Christ is “ideological,” too.

Kasper baldly calls the “changeless” God an “offense to man”:

One must deny him for man’s sake, because he claims for himself the dignity and honor that belong by right to man….

We must resist this God … also for God’s sake. He is not the true God at all, but rather a wretched idol. For a God … who is not himself history is a finite God. If we call such a being God, then for the sake of the Absolute we must become absolute atheists. Such a God springs from a rigid worldview; he is the guarantor of the status quo and the enemy of the new.

A shocking ultimatum from the man hailed as “the pope’s theologian”: either embrace a mutable God who’s not an “enemy of the new”—or profess “absolute,” unflinching, hardcore atheism.

Kasper says the Church must be led by a “spirit” that “is not primarily the third divine person.” That ominous “spirit,” says Thomas Stark, is apparently some Hegelian agent of creation’s self-perfection. Pope Francis, against all the “sourpusses” (EG 85), describes our “final cause” as “the utopian future” (EG 222). Because God wants us to be “happy” in this world, it’s “no longer possible to claim that religion … exists only to prepare souls for heaven” (EG 182).

But Christ said, “In the world you shall have distress” (Jn. 16:33). The 1907 dystopian novel The Lord of the World hauntingly imagines the travails of history’s last days, when humanity has heeded Kasper’s call to “resist” God with absolute atheism if necessary. By this point, “Protestantism is dead,” for men “recognize at last that a supernatural religion involves an absolute authority.” Those with “any supernatural belief left” are Catholic—persecuted by a world professing “no God but man, no priest but the politician.”

More and more clergy apostatize. Man “has learned his own divinity.” Yet Fr. Percy Franklin still adores the Eucharistic Lord, still believes that “the reconciling of a soul to God” is greater than the reconciling of nations. He secretly hears a dying woman’s confession before the “real priests”—the euthanizers—come.

Her daughter-in-law, Mabel, scoffs that the new atheism has perfected Catholicism:

Do you not understand that all which Jesus Christ promised has come true, though in another way? The reign of God has really begun; but we know now who God is. You said just now you wanted the forgiveness of Sins; well, you have that; we all have it, because there is no such thing as sin. There is only Crime.

And then Communion. You used to believe that that made you a partaker of God; well, we are all partakers of God, because we are all human beings.

Mabel and the rapt multitudes ritually worship Man. God was a “hideous nightmare.” Their spirits swoon before a politician promising “the universal brotherhood of man.”

That “savior of the world” is the Antichrist. All must deny God or die.

For history, like the novel itself, ends not with rapturous utopia but with tribulation, apostasy, martyrdoms, and “God’s triumph over the revolt of evil [in] the form of the Last Judgment” (CCC 677). In the throes of his own tribulation, Fr. Franklin calls us to cling to the faith and those refuges of old:

The mass, prayer, the rosary. These first and last. The world denies their power: it is on their power that Christians must throw all their weight.



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To: Mark17
I comprehend your concerns; if it were generically "contacting" the dead, I would agree wholeheartedly. But asking a fellow believer? You don't think they're in Heaven (and therefore closer to the Throne, and also more able to see clearly ("now we see as in a glass darkly, but then face to face"), and so better able to pray His will?

(Cause, you know, Protestants do not think anyone is in Purgatory.)

681 posted on 12/02/2017 3:45:58 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ealgeone
Unless the Roman Catholic is willing to answer in the affirmative the only conclusion that may be drawn is they wish to continue in their worship of Mary in defiance of what is revealed in Scripture.

I cannot speak for other Catholics, but when I was a Catholic, MANY years ago, I worshipped Mary. I don’t know if others do, but I did. 😀😆😄

682 posted on 12/02/2017 3:49:00 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: metmom
Anyone who is depending on religion or denominational affiliation to bet them to heaven is in for a HUGE surprise.

A huge surprise you say? I won’t sugar coat it. The huge surprise you mention, will be an eternity in the lake of fire. They will be in for a huge surprise for sure, but it will be much worse than that. 🔥😱

683 posted on 12/02/2017 4:00:12 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: grey_whiskers

Well, I can certainly understand what you mean by that. I don’t really think it’s correct, but I understand the logic.

The reason I don’t think that trying to talk to dead believers is necessary is because the Lord has already promised that the Holy Spirit also prays (or intercedes if you want another translation) for us, and prays things that even we don’t know we need to pray for:

“Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.” (Romans 8:26)


684 posted on 12/02/2017 4:13:17 PM PST by Luircin
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To: ealgeone
We are saved by grace, through faith (eph 2:8-9). You have to remember that cult members engage in cult speak. The word “grace” conjures up a different concept in the mind of a cult member, than it does to you and me.
I sometimes take on the Jehovah’s Witnesses who come by. I invite them in, but I make it clear, that since they came to my house, I set the ground rules, as to how the discussion goes. I always define EVERY term I use, cuz I know they engage in cult speak. 😀😆😄 I never go to the house of a Jehovah’s Witness, so they cannot set the ground rules. 😇
685 posted on 12/02/2017 4:17:42 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: metmom

> We are asking for God’s word. If you can’t be bothered to post that, there’s nothing.

You do not get to define what G-d’s Word is. I cite the Divine Code by Rabbi Moshe Weiner, published by Ask Noah International. It is an authoritative Oral Torah source. You reject the Oral Torah. There is nothing to discuss.


686 posted on 12/02/2017 4:26:07 PM PST by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: grey_whiskers

“You don’t think they’re in Heaven (and therefore closer to the Throne, and also more able to see clearly (”now we see as in a glass darkly, but then face to face”), and so better able to pray His will?”

Except there is no reason in Scripture to think they can hear your prayer.


687 posted on 12/02/2017 4:30:04 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: grey_whiskers
You don't think they're in Heaven (and therefore closer to the Thronve, and also more able to see clearly

Sure, they see things more clearly, they just don’t hear us. You can call it by ten different names if you want. I call it necromancy. It is evil and forbidden. Just have a seance. It would be about the same thing.
There are plenty of people in Purgatory, especially this time of year. I never skied there, but I skied at some exotic places in Europe, when I lived in Germany.

688 posted on 12/02/2017 4:31:46 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid

“You do not get to define what G-d’s Word is. I cite the Divine Code by Rabbi Moshe Weiner, published by Ask Noah International. It is an authoritative Oral Torah source. You reject the Oral Torah. There is nothing to discuss.

If you substitute the oral Torah for God’s inspired Torah, well your call.


689 posted on 12/02/2017 4:32:40 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mark17

Pretty clear isn’t it?!


690 posted on 12/02/2017 4:37:04 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
Pretty clear isn’t it?!

So clear, a three year old can understand it.

691 posted on 12/02/2017 4:54:02 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: grey_whiskers

I’ll take a listen when I get the chance!


692 posted on 12/02/2017 5:00:42 PM PST by Luircin
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To: ealgeone
I think you have a slight mis-statement here.

"or it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast."

But -- there is also James 2:20-24:

20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.”[d] And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

Or, look at the Centurion in Acts 10:

1At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion in what was known as the Italian Regiment. 2He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. 3One day at about three in the afternoon he had a vision. He distinctly saw an angel of God, who came to him and said, “Cornelius!”

4Cornelius stared at him in fear. “What is it, Lord?” he asked.

The angel answered, “Your prayers and gifts to the poor have come up as a memorial offering before God. 5Now send men to Joppa to bring back a man named Simon who is called Peter. 6He is staying with Simon the tanner, whose house is by the sea.”

So works alone, do not automatically result in God's favor, in the way that getting 90% guarantees an "A" or the way that fulfilling a contract obligates the other party to payment. But as seen with the Centurion, good works may attract God's notice.

There is also Jesus reminding us, Matthew 10:42, "And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward " (shades of the rich Shunamite woman in 2 Kings 4).

And, disobedience to God does not automatically end up with condemnation, see 1 Timothy 1:15

15This is a trustworthy saying, worthy of full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the worst. 16But for this very reason I was shown mercy, so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display His perfect patience, as an example to those who would believe in Him for eternal life

What matters most is God's Glory. (Note the first petition in the Lord's Prayer.)

Good works usually end up glorifying God more than bad ones.

693 posted on 12/02/2017 5:18:22 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Luircin
Yah, but if that were true, why ever ask anyone for prayer?

The closest I can get to it, is a line from The Magician's Nephew:

“Wouldn't he know without being asked?' said Polly.

'I've no doubt he would,' said the Horse (still with his mouth full). 'But I've a sort of an idea he likes to be asked.”

694 posted on 12/02/2017 5:21:38 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Mark17
I sometimes take on the Jehovah’s Witnesses who come by. I invite them in, but I make it clear, that since they came to my house, I set the ground rules, as to how the discussion goes. I always define EVERY term I use, cuz I know they engage in cult speak. 😀😆😄 I never go to the house of a Jehovah’s Witness, so they cannot set the ground rules. 😇

Huh. How do you see 1 John 1:10-11?

"10If anyone comes to you but does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your home or even greet him. 11Whoever greets such a person shares in his evil deeds. "

695 posted on 12/02/2017 5:24:37 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Huh. Hebrews 12 kinda implies that they’re at least watching (and presumably, rooting for us).


696 posted on 12/02/2017 5:27:36 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Mark17
Seances are contacting spirits in order to gain information from them which is inaccessible to mortal men.

Asking someone in Heaven to pray for you is not.

Incidentally, what does the time of year have to do with the population of Purgatory? Unless you're making a joke about a town in Germany with that name? (I'm not quite following.)

697 posted on 12/02/2017 5:30:27 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Well, it IS true, since Scripture says so, right?

Though what I tend to do is to ask the Spirit to pray for anything that I don’t know that I need, and after that, just trust that the Lord will do what is right.

(Incidentally, that’s one of my favorite books.)


698 posted on 12/02/2017 5:31:18 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin
Hint: the name of the album is Sola Scriptura. The guy has a pretty interesting back story.
699 posted on 12/02/2017 5:32:38 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Arthur McGowan; ealgeone
I think "obsession" would be better defined as neurotically stalking another Freeper and counting every single one of his posts on a thread rather than a Freeper responding to comments others have directed to him...but that's just me.
700 posted on 12/02/2017 5:32:59 PM PST by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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