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Protestantism, Modernism, Atheism
Crisis Magazine ^
| November 28, 2017
| Julia Meloni
Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide
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The reality of the apostasy of faith in our time rightly and profoundly frightens us, said Cardinal Burke in honor of Fatimas centenary.
In 1903, Pope St. Pius X declared himself terrified by humanitys self-destructive apostasy from God: For behold they that go far from Thee shall perish (Ps. 72:27). How much more daunting, said Cardinal Burke, is todays widespread apostasy.
In 1910, St. Pius X condemned the movement for a One-World Church without dogmas, hierarchy, or curb for the passionsa church which, under the pretext of freedom, would impose legalized cunning and force. How much more, said Cardinal Burke, do todays movements for a single government of the world and certain movements with the Church herself disregard sin and salvation?
In Pascendi, St. Pius X named the trajectory toward the annihilation of all religion: The first step
was taken by Protestantism; the second
by [the heresy of] Modernism; the next will plunge headlong into atheism.
So let us, said Cardinal Burke, heed Fatimas call for prayer, penance, and reparation. Let us be agents of the triumph of Marys Immaculate Heart.
A few weeks after that speech, the Vatican announced its shining tribute to the Protestant revolution: a golden stamp with Luther and Melanchthon at the foot of the cross, triumphantly supplanting the Blessed Virgin and St. John.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider has asked how the Vatican can call Luther a witness to the gospel when he called the Mass
a blasphemy and the papacy an invention of Satan. The signatories of the filial correction have expressed wonderment and sorrow at a statue of Luther in the Vaticanand documented the affinity between Luthers ideas on law, justification, and marriage and Pope Franciss statements.
At a 2016 joint commemoration of the Protestant revolution, Pope Francis expressed joy for its myriad gifts. He and pro-abortion Lutherans with female clergy jointly declared that what unites us is greater than what divides us. Together they raise[d] their voices against violence. They prayed for the conversion of those who exploit the earth. They declared the goal of receiving the Eucharist at one table to express their full unity.
In Martin Luther: An Ecumenical Perspective, Cardinal Kasper confirms that the excommunicated, apostate monk is now a common church father, a new St. Francis of Assisi. This prophet of the new evangelization was forced into calling the pope the Antichrist after his call for repentance was not heard. But Kasper finds ecumenical hope in Luthers statement that he would
kiss the feet of a pope who allows and acknowledges his gospel.
Kasper says Pope Franciss Evangelii Gaudium, without mentioning him by name, makes Luthers concerns stand in the center.
So its Luthers gospel of grace and mercy behind, apparently, the high disdain for self-absorbed promethean neopelagianis[ts] plagued by a soundness of doctrine thats narcissistic and authoritarian (EG 94).
So its Lutherthe bizarre protagonist of ecumenical unitybehind the demand for a conversion of the papacy that gives genuine doctrinal authority to episcopal conferences (EG 32). Sandro Magister says the pope is already creating a federation of national Churches endowed with extensive autonomy through liturgical decentralization.
So its Luther behind the demand to accept the unruly freedom of the word, which accomplishes what it wills in ways that surpass our
ways of thinking (EG 22). Kasper says Luthers faith in the self-implementation of the word of God gave him a heroic openness to the future.
Ultimately, Kaspers Luthera prophet of openness to futurity, a Catholic reformer waiting for a sympathetic popeemerges as a symbolic father for Modernisms struggle to change the Church from within. Modernism falsely claims that God evolves with historymaking truth utterly mutable. So Kasper the Modernist says dogmas can be stupid and Church structures can spring from ideology and denying the Eucharist to adulterers because of one phrase from Christ is ideological, too.
Kasper baldly calls the changeless God an offense to man:
One must deny him for mans sake, because he claims for himself the dignity and honor that belong by right to man
.
We must resist this God
also for Gods sake. He is not the true God at all, but rather a wretched idol. For a God
who is not himself history is a finite God. If we call such a being God, then for the sake of the Absolute we must become absolute atheists. Such a God springs from a rigid worldview; he is the guarantor of the status quo and the enemy of the new.
A shocking ultimatum from the man hailed as the popes theologian: either embrace a mutable God whos not an enemy of the newor profess absolute, unflinching, hardcore atheism.
Kasper says the Church must be led by a spirit that is not primarily the third divine person. That ominous spirit, says Thomas Stark, is apparently some Hegelian agent of creations self-perfection. Pope Francis, against all the sourpusses (EG 85), describes our final cause as the utopian future (EG 222). Because God wants us to be happy in this world, its no longer possible to claim that religion
exists only to prepare souls for heaven (EG 182).
But Christ said, In the world you shall have distress (Jn. 16:33). The 1907 dystopian novel The Lord of the World hauntingly imagines the travails of historys last days, when humanity has heeded Kaspers call to resist God with absolute atheism if necessary. By this point, Protestantism is dead, for men recognize at last that a supernatural religion involves an absolute authority. Those with any supernatural belief left are Catholicpersecuted by a world professing no God but man, no priest but the politician.
More and more clergy apostatize. Man has learned his own divinity. Yet Fr. Percy Franklin still adores the Eucharistic Lord, still believes that the reconciling of a soul to God is greater than the reconciling of nations. He secretly hears a dying womans confession before the real prieststhe euthanizerscome.
Her daughter-in-law, Mabel, scoffs that the new atheism has perfected Catholicism:
Do you not understand that all which Jesus Christ promised has come true, though in another way? The reign of God has really begun; but we know now who God is. You said just now you wanted the forgiveness of Sins; well, you have that; we all have it, because there is no such thing as sin. There is only Crime.
And then Communion. You used to believe that that made you a partaker of God; well, we are all partakers of God, because we are all human beings.
Mabel and the rapt multitudes ritually worship Man. God was a hideous nightmare. Their spirits swoon before a politician promising the universal brotherhood of man.
That savior of the world is the Antichrist. All must deny God or die.
For history, like the novel itself, ends not with rapturous utopia but with tribulation, apostasy, martyrdoms, and Gods triumph over the revolt of evil [in] the form of the Last Judgment (CCC 677). In the throes of his own tribulation, Fr. Franklin calls us to cling to the faith and those refuges of old:
The mass, prayer, the rosary. These first and last. The world denies their power: it is on their power that Christians must throw all their weight.
TOPICS: Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: francischurch; oneworldchurch
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To: Mark17
I comprehend your concerns; if it were generically "contacting" the dead, I would agree wholeheartedly. But asking a fellow believer? You don't think they're in Heaven (and therefore closer to the Throne, and also more able to see clearly ("now we see as in a glass darkly, but then face to face"), and so better able to pray His will?
(Cause, you know, Protestants do not think anyone is in Purgatory.)
681
posted on
12/02/2017 3:45:58 PM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: ealgeone
Unless the Roman Catholic is willing to answer in the affirmative the only conclusion that may be drawn is they wish to continue in their worship of Mary in defiance of what is revealed in Scripture.I cannot speak for other Catholics, but when I was a Catholic, MANY years ago, I worshipped Mary. I dont know if others do, but I did. 😀😆😄
682
posted on
12/02/2017 3:49:00 PM PST
by
Mark17
(Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
To: metmom
Anyone who is depending on religion or denominational affiliation to bet them to heaven is in for a HUGE surprise.A huge surprise you say? I wont sugar coat it. The huge surprise you mention, will be an eternity in the lake of fire. They will be in for a huge surprise for sure, but it will be much worse than that. 🔥😱
683
posted on
12/02/2017 4:00:12 PM PST
by
Mark17
(Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
To: grey_whiskers
Well, I can certainly understand what you mean by that. I don’t really think it’s correct, but I understand the logic.
The reason I don’t think that trying to talk to dead believers is necessary is because the Lord has already promised that the Holy Spirit also prays (or intercedes if you want another translation) for us, and prays things that even we don’t know we need to pray for:
“Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words.” (Romans 8:26)
684
posted on
12/02/2017 4:13:17 PM PST
by
Luircin
To: ealgeone
We are saved by grace, through faith (eph 2:8-9). You have to remember that cult members engage in cult speak. The word grace conjures up a different concept in the mind of a cult member, than it does to you and me.
I sometimes take on the Jehovahs Witnesses who come by. I invite them in, but I make it clear, that since they came to my house, I set the ground rules, as to how the discussion goes. I always define EVERY term I use, cuz I know they engage in cult speak. 😀😆😄 I never go to the house of a Jehovahs Witness, so they cannot set the ground rules. 😇
685
posted on
12/02/2017 4:17:42 PM PST
by
Mark17
(Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
To: metmom
> We are asking for Gods word. If you cant be bothered to post that, theres nothing.
You do not get to define what G-d’s Word is. I cite the Divine Code by Rabbi Moshe Weiner, published by Ask Noah International. It is an authoritative Oral Torah source. You reject the Oral Torah. There is nothing to discuss.
To: grey_whiskers
You don’t think they’re in Heaven (and therefore closer to the Throne, and also more able to see clearly (”now we see as in a glass darkly, but then face to face”), and so better able to pray His will?
Except there is no reason in Scripture to think they can hear your prayer.
To: grey_whiskers
You don't think they're in Heaven (and therefore closer to the Thronve, and also more able to see clearlySure, they see things more clearly, they just dont hear us. You can call it by ten different names if you want. I call it necromancy. It is evil and forbidden. Just have a seance. It would be about the same thing.
There are plenty of people in Purgatory, especially this time of year. I never skied there, but I skied at some exotic places in Europe, when I lived in Germany.
688
posted on
12/02/2017 4:31:46 PM PST
by
Mark17
(Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
To: Hrvatski Noahid
You do not get to define what G-ds Word is. I cite the Divine Code by Rabbi Moshe Weiner, published by Ask Noah International. It is an authoritative Oral Torah source. You reject the Oral Torah. There is nothing to discuss.
If you substitute the oral Torah for Gods inspired Torah, well your call.
To: Mark17
To: ealgeone
Pretty clear isnt it?!So clear, a three year old can understand it.
691
posted on
12/02/2017 4:54:02 PM PST
by
Mark17
(Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
To: grey_whiskers
I’ll take a listen when I get the chance!
692
posted on
12/02/2017 5:00:42 PM PST
by
Luircin
To: ealgeone
I think you have a slight mis-statement here.
"or it is by grace you have been saved, through faithand this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God not by works, so that no one can boast."
But -- there is also James 2:20-24:
20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.[d] And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
Or, look at the Centurion in Acts 10:
1At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion in what was known as the Italian Regiment. 2He and all his family were devout and God-fearing; he gave generously to those in need and prayed to God regularly. 3One day at about three in the afternoon he had a vision. He distinctly saw an angel of God, who came to him and said, Cornelius!
4Cornelius stared at him in fear. What is it, Lord? he asked.
The angel answered, Your prayers and gifts to the poor have come up as a memorial offering before God. 5Now send men to Joppa to bring back a man named Simon who is called Peter. 6He is staying with Simon the tanner, whose house is by the sea.
So works alone, do not automatically result in God's favor, in the way that getting 90% guarantees an "A" or the way that fulfilling a contract obligates the other party to payment. But as seen with the Centurion, good works may attract God's notice.
There is also Jesus reminding us, Matthew 10:42, "And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward " (shades of the rich Shunamite woman in 2 Kings 4).
And, disobedience to God does not automatically end up with condemnation, see 1 Timothy 1:15
15This is a trustworthy saying, worthy of full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the worst. 16But for this very reason I was shown mercy, so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display His perfect patience, as an example to those who would believe in Him for eternal life
What matters most is God's Glory. (Note the first petition in the Lord's Prayer.)
Good works usually end up glorifying God more than bad ones.
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posted on
12/02/2017 5:18:22 PM PST
by
grey_whiskers
(The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
To: Luircin
Yah, but if that were true, why ever ask anyone for prayer?
The closest I can get to it, is a line from The Magician's Nephew:
Wouldn't he know without being asked?' said Polly.
'I've no doubt he would,' said the Horse (still with his mouth full). 'But I've a sort of an idea he likes to be asked.
694
posted on
12/02/2017 5:21:38 PM PST
by
grey_whiskers
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To: Mark17
I sometimes take on the Jehovahs Witnesses who come by. I invite them in, but I make it clear, that since they came to my house, I set the ground rules, as to how the discussion goes. I always define EVERY term I use, cuz I know they engage in cult speak. 😀😆😄 I never go to the house of a Jehovahs Witness, so they cannot set the ground rules. 😇 Huh. How do you see 1 John 1:10-11?
"10If anyone comes to you but does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your home or even greet him. 11Whoever greets such a person shares in his evil deeds. "
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posted on
12/02/2017 5:24:37 PM PST
by
grey_whiskers
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Huh. Hebrews 12 kinda implies that they’re at least watching (and presumably, rooting for us).
696
posted on
12/02/2017 5:27:36 PM PST
by
grey_whiskers
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To: Mark17
Seances are contacting spirits in order to gain information from them which is inaccessible to mortal men.
Asking someone in Heaven to pray for you is not.
Incidentally, what does the time of year have to do with the population of Purgatory? Unless you're making a joke about a town in Germany with that name? (I'm not quite following.)
697
posted on
12/02/2017 5:30:27 PM PST
by
grey_whiskers
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To: grey_whiskers
Well, it IS true, since Scripture says so, right?
Though what I tend to do is to ask the Spirit to pray for anything that I don’t know that I need, and after that, just trust that the Lord will do what is right.
(Incidentally, that’s one of my favorite books.)
698
posted on
12/02/2017 5:31:18 PM PST
by
Luircin
To: Luircin
Hint: the name of the album is Sola Scriptura. The guy has a pretty interesting back story.
699
posted on
12/02/2017 5:32:38 PM PST
by
grey_whiskers
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To: Arthur McGowan; ealgeone
I think "obsession" would be better defined as neurotically stalking another Freeper and counting every single one of his posts on a thread rather than a Freeper responding to comments others have directed to him...but that's just me.
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posted on
12/02/2017 5:32:59 PM PST
by
boatbums
(The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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