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Protestantism, Modernism, Atheism
Crisis Magazine ^ | November 28, 2017 | Julia Meloni

Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: vladimir998

Hey, you’re the one who called it an attack....so you’re the one who is triggered. I think I have a new rule to add to the list.


361 posted on 11/30/2017 3:24:19 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“Hey, you’re the one who called it an attack....so you’re the one who is triggered. I think I have a new rule to add to the list.”

And you were still wrong not to ping me if you mention me by name. Apparently you were already triggered.


362 posted on 11/30/2017 3:35:29 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998

“And you were still wrong not to ping me if you mention me by name.

Thin-skinned Placemarker


363 posted on 11/30/2017 3:41:05 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: vladimir998

Now you’re mind reading by presuming I was triggered. Whatever it was triggered you enough to post. Man, that skin of yours is thin. I’ll have the new rule up in a bit.


364 posted on 11/30/2017 4:17:35 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“Now you’re mind reading by presuming I was triggered.”

No presumption at all; no mind reading at all. I wrote “Apparently you were already triggered.” Apparently.

“Whatever it was triggered you enough to post.”

And apparently you were triggered enough to post it in the first place.

“Man, that skin of yours is thin.”

Not as thin as you reasoning.

“I’ll have the new rule up in a bit.”

Sure because you have to express your triggering in some way, right?


365 posted on 11/30/2017 4:31:48 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“Thin-skinned Placemarker”

Well, since you can’t win arguments - as you amply prove over and over again - I guess you have to post that sort of thing. You certainly can’t do much else.


366 posted on 11/30/2017 4:34:27 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: ealgeone

Lol, poor things wants to make it ultimately all about him/his ego neediness And he does do the Chubby Checker twist with stuff, predictably.


367 posted on 11/30/2017 4:41:02 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

> True, but for some reason they seem completely blind to that fact.

You know the reason. They were raised to worship a dead man on a cross. You and I know how hard it was to get rid of christianity. No wonder a Torah observant Gentile is as honorable as a proper Jewish High Priest who served in the Holy Temple. We deserve it.


368 posted on 11/30/2017 4:42:01 PM PST by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: vladimir998

Since I have zero respect for your massive ego, I don’t bother pinging you, son.


369 posted on 11/30/2017 4:42:35 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: vladimir998
Well, since you can’t win arguments

I don't even try with you FRiend.

No more than I'd try to have a logical conversation with an antifa member. I simply leave it to God.

I simply wish you the best and say, "sure, vlad."

370 posted on 11/30/2017 4:47:50 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Hrvatski Noahid
They were raised to worship a dead man on a cross.

The Christians I know worship a Risen Christ.

Noahid is a made up thing, so your view does not surprise me.

371 posted on 11/30/2017 4:49:21 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Zionist Conspirator

> All you poor folks on this thread could solve this dilemma by simply rejecting the “new testament” and chrstianity altogether.

Yes. Yes they could. It is that simple.


372 posted on 11/30/2017 4:50:37 PM PST by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: vladimir998; MHGinTN

Vlad’s Rules of Internet Debate #4...dwell in the minors trying to make a point.


373 posted on 11/30/2017 4:50:53 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Hrvatski Noahid
True, but for some reason they seem completely blind to that fact.

You know the reason. They were raised to worship a dead man on a cross.

There's a little more to it than that. Fundamentalist Protestants (which you probably have very few of in your country) paint themselves into a corner where chrstianity simply has to be true or else G-d is honor bound to eternally damn every single human being who will ever live. This is why historical chrstianity (Catholicism, Orthodoxy, etc.) to them is no different from Judaism: they all insist on human participation whereas Fundamentalist Protestantism insists on salvation via legal loophole and nothing else.

As to why the more ancient chrstians are so addicted to the religion, I honestly can't say. Growing up a Fundamentalist Protestant, the only difference I've ever seen in the Jewish ceremonial and the chrstian one is that the former is explicitly from G-d and the latter was made up by people. But Catholics/Orthodox nevertheless seem to think that the latter somehow is "self-evidently" an improvement over the former--which is impossible.

Fun fact: Catholics and Orthodox attack us for "thinking we don't need Chr*st." Yet Fundamentalist Protestants attack them for the same thing because they (Catholics and Orthodox) have to have their "salvation" mediated to them through secondary instrumentalities. To Fundamentalist Protestants, belief in secondary instrumentalities is simply another form of idolatry.

You and I know how hard it was to get rid of christianity.

And even when you get rid of it you're still stuck with it. It is no accident that the sick, materialistic "west" coincides with what used to be "chrstendom." The "west" went from chrstian "theocracy" to an inverted chrstian "theocracy" (where all positions are determined by simply taking the opposite stance to the traditional chrstian ones in all areas). The Left rebels against chrstianity because it's the only religion it takes seriously. Members of other religions to them are just more "dissidents" and rebels, no different than homosexuals.

No wonder a Torah observant Gentile is as honorable as a proper Jewish High Priest who served in the Holy Temple. We deserve it.

Unfortunately, I ain't there yet. I still have a lot of problems I'm trying to work through. Pirqei-'Avot says if one's "wisdom" exceeds ones good deeds one's "wisdom" will not stand. Unfortunately, I'm more light than heat. But I tell myself it's better than doing absolutely nothing.

374 posted on 11/30/2017 5:02:49 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Hrvatski Noahid

“For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, 24but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.”

Thanks for proving St. Paul correct, lol.


375 posted on 11/30/2017 5:03:38 PM PST by Luircin
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

> The Christians I know worship a Risen Christ.

Who cares?

> Noahid is a made up thing, so your view does not surprise me.

I see. So Torah is a made up thing but the new testament is not? Good to know.


376 posted on 11/30/2017 5:04:00 PM PST by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: Hrvatski Noahid
Who cares?

Sorry, I thought you'd like to know you were lying.

I see. So Torah is a made up thing but the new testament is not?

Nothing in Torah states Noahid as instituted by God - or continuing.

377 posted on 11/30/2017 5:06:51 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
The Christians I know worship a Risen Christ.

Which is not allowed by the Torah, and is idolatry.

Noahid is a made up thing, so your view does not surprise me.

You're right. The seven laws we now call the "Noahide Laws" were made up by G-d and given to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. It literally goes all the way back to the beginning, unlike your paltry 2000 year old innovation.

378 posted on 11/30/2017 5:07:39 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Very little more obnoxiously evangelical than an ex-Christian.

Thanks once against for proving Scripture correct:

“For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt. 7For land that has drunk the rain that often falls on it, and produces a crop useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God. 8But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed, and its end is to be burned.”


379 posted on 11/30/2017 5:11:10 PM PST by Luircin
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

> Nothing in Torah states Noahid as instituted by God - or continuing.

I am a Torah scholar with a formal education in Torah Law. Please do not lecture me about Torah.


380 posted on 11/30/2017 5:14:30 PM PST by Hrvatski Noahid
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