Posted on 11/27/2017 8:37:19 AM PST by Salvation
Catholics are often unaware just how biblical the Sacred Liturgy is. The design of our traditional churches; the use of candles, incense, and golden vessels; the postures of standing and kneeling; the altar; the singing of hymns; priests wearing albs and so forth are all depicted in the Scriptures. Some of these details were features of the ancient Jewish Temple, but most are reiterated in the Book of Revelation, which describes the liturgy of Heaven.
The liturgy here on earth is modeled after the liturgy in Heaven; that is why it is so serious to tamper with it. The Book of Revelation describes the heavenly liturgy and focuses on a scroll or book that contains the meaning of life and the answers to all we seek. It also focuses on the Lamb of God, standing but with the marks of slaughter upon it. Does this not sound familiar? It is the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist.
We do well to be aware of the biblical roots of the Sacred Liturgy. Many people consider our rituals to be empty and vain, smells and bells. Some think austere liturgical environments devoid of much ritual are purer and closer to the worship in spirit and in truth that Jesus spoke of in John 4.
To such criticisms we must insist that our rituals, properly understood, are mystical and deeply biblical. Further, they are elements of the heavenly liturgy since almost all of them are mentioned as aspects of the worship or liturgy that takes place in Heaven. In this light, it is a serious mistake to set them aside or have a dismissive attitude toward them.
With that in mind we ought to consider the biblical references to the most common elements of Catholic and Orthodox liturgies. I have added my own occasional note in red.
Candles
Altar
Chair
Priests (elders) in Albs
Bishops miter, priests biretta
Focus on a scroll (book), The Liturgy of the Word
Incense, Intercessory prayer
Hymns
Holy, Holy, Holy
Prostration (Kneeling)
Lamb of God
Acclamations
Amen!
Silence
Mary
Happy are those called to His supper
Golden vessels, vestments
Stained Glass
Here is but a partial list, except for one quote drawn only from the Book of Revelation. I invite you to add to it.
Here is an awesome video with wonderful quotes:
Sorry ADSUM, but I had Roman religion for 19 years before I met Christ. I not only have the Lord's Supper, but Himself at all times, eternal life, assurance of salvation, amazing grace and of course, His precious Word.
It was no loss. It was eternal gain!
And do you have eternal life and assurance of salvation ADSUM? Now? If not, do you not want it?
"May God enlighten you to HIS TRUTH."
Indeed!
I could make up sentence using words found from the Bible and that wouldn’t necessarily make it Biblical.
Besides, the Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek.
Not Latin or English, so your claim falls flat from the get go.
** alter **
Who or what got altered? LOL!
Gee, finally a good question! Thank you for asking!
Let's see... What Got Altered:
1. The Gospel of Grace
2. Salvation
3. Perversion of NT Church Offices
4. Popery
5. Transubstantiation
6. Prayer to departed saints
7. And so much more!
And Jesus quoted it right back at him.
What?
Do you think Catholics are the only ones who can be sole arbiters of the truth?
It’s easy.
Anyone can read Scripture, especially Hebrews, and see that the priesthood has been done away with.
Jesus died, past tense, rose again, past tense, and is now seated at the right hand of the Father in heaven.
He is not continually dying, being slaughtered at the hands of Catholic priests.
I don’t know who they are killing or participating in his murder but it isn’t the living risen Lord Jesus Christ, seated in glory on high in Scripture.
**He is not continually dying, being slaughtered at the hands of Catholic priests.**
This is not true.
Even the devil can quote Scripture.
Remember?
Per Obrien in the Faith of Millions He is.
And yet at the moment, here we are on a thread that is claiming that the mass is entirely based on that very same Scripture.
Does that mean the Catholic mass is also arrogance and bluster? After all, it is Scripture alone, correct?
salvation: This is not true.
John O' Brien, Roman Catholic Priest in the Faith of Millions. | Hebrews 9:24-28 | Hebrews 10:11-13 |
When the priest pronounces the tremendous words of consecration, he reaches up into the heavens, brings Christ down from His throne, and places Him upon our altar to be offered up again as the Victim for the sins of man. It is a power greater than that of monarchs and emperors: it is greater than that of saints and angels, greater than that of Seraphim and Cherubim. Indeed it is greater even than the power of the Virgin Mary. While the Blessed Virgin was the human agency by which Christ became incarnate a single time, the priest brings Christ down from heaven, and renders Him present on our altar as the eternal Victim for the sins of mannot once but a thousand times! The priest speaks and lo! Christ, the eternal and omnipotent God, bows His head in humble obedience to the priests command. |
24For Christ did not enter a holy place made with hands, a mere copy of the true one, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; 25nor was it that He would offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the holy place year by year with blood that is not his own. 26Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment, 28so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him. | Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins; 12but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, SAT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, 13waiting from that time onward UNTIL HIS ENEMIES BE MADE A FOOTSTOOL FOR HIS FEET. 14For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified. |
Sheesh.
5.56mm
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Isn't it funny that Romans ridicule putting authority in God's Word above others while trying to justify their practices with Scripture???
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Wrong, while even if true, this would prove what? There was a reason the devil quoted the Scriptures and the majority of the Book of Mormon is from the Bible.
This webpage contains the English translation of the Mass used up until 2011. (http://catholic-resources.org/ChurchDocs/Mass.htm)
Rite of Blessing and Sprinkling Holy Water:
Lord God almighty, creator of all life, of body and soul, we ask you to bless this water: as we use it in faith forgive our sins and save us from all illness and the power of evil.
Nowhere is water itself ritually blessed in Scripture in order to forgive sins and heal bodies.
May almighty God cleanse us of our sins, and through the eucharist we celebrate make us worthy to sit at his table in his heavenly kingdom
Nowhere in the inspired record of the NT church is the Lord's supper taught or shown to be a means of making souls s worthy to sit at his table in his heavenly kingdom. Instead, believers are not to take part in this communal feast which signifies unity with Christ and each other whom He bought with His sinless shed blood. See here by God's grace.
and I ask blessed Mary, ever virgin, all the angels and saints, and you, my brothers and sisters, to pray for me to the Lord, our God.
Nowhere nowhere are believers shown praying to created beings in Heaven (PTCBIH) or taught to, despite the Spirit inspiring the recording of about 200 prayers, and this being a most basic practice, with there always being plenty of created beings to pray to, and occasions for to do so since the Fall.
The above is not a complete list of all that a Mass can contain nor all that is not from the Bible, but it shall suffice to show that every sentence of the Mass does not come from the Bible, even though for a Cath this can mean according to what they read into it, as with PTCBIH .
Shame on him. He must know better than that just because something is in Scripture does not make it part of a liturgy, or make it Biblical to be part of a church service.
The design of our traditional churches; the use of candles, incense, and golden vessels; the postures of standing and kneeling; the altar; the singing of hymns; priests wearing albs and so forth are all depicted in the Scriptures.
And such in paganism also, as Newman affirms,
The use of temples, and these dedicated to particular saints, and ornamented on occasions with branches of trees; incense, lamps, and candles; votive offerings on recovery from illness; holy water; asylums; holydays and seasons, use of calendars, processions, blessings on the fields; sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure, the ring in marriage, turning to the East, images at a later date, perhaps the ecclesiastical chant, and the Kyrie Eleison [Note 17], are all of pagan origin , and sanctified by their adoption into the Church.." {374} "The introduction of Images was still later, and met with more opposition in the West than in the East." (John Henry Newman, An Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine, Chapter 8. Application of the Third Note of a True DevelopmentAssimilative Power; http://www.newmanreader.org/works/development/chapter8.html
Candles Rev 1:12-13 Then I turned to see the voice that was speaking to me, and on turning I saw seven golden lampstands, and in the midst of the lampstands one like a son of man.
Just where is this a set liturgy in Rv. 1? There is not even any singing, but a vision of the Lord (and not as a wafer) and His speaking.
Rev 4:6 Seven flaming torches burned in front of the throne.
This is a different scene, after "Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter." (Revelation 4:1)
All for now.
As meaning a distinct sacerdotal class for whom the distinctive word for such is used.
So does the Book of Mormon, and even the Qur'an (whose followers your church says worship God along with them), and so did the devil, who knows where authority resides and thus seeks to hijack it, and Rome often does the same.
Along with the NT church of Scripture, in which Catholic distinctives are missing .
Sorry, my phone dictated it as warship not worship
Your phone was correct. Roman warship (exterminate the heretics/Prots) is also not worship!
Oh, he doesn't know, based on the many, many posts Salvation has made of his articles.
Seems like a nice guy, despite being ignorant of Scripture.
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