Posted on 11/22/2017 9:12:43 AM PST by Salvation
8See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. 9For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form,
10and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;
11and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ;
12having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.
13When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions,
14having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
Colossians 2:8-14 NASB
It is supported in the New Testament through Christ’s words.
Romans 1:20 says no man has an excuse - because God himself will reveal his truth to those that seek Him.
You don't have to belong to the Pope Club (tm) to be a Christian. Sorry.
......”You don’t have to belong to the Pope Club to be a Christian”....
Very true...unfortunately trying to show those convinced the pope is not the Vicar of Christ is like trying to tell N.Koreans Kim Un isn’t a God.....
If we've been made complete in Him and all of our transgressions are forgiven as noted in the passage from Colossians, what good is purgatory?
Again, it is not supported by the New Testament.
You're going to have to post the verses that you claim supports Christ saying there is a purgatory.
The OP never mentions purgatory. Do you normally hijack threads like this?
1 Tim 2:5 agrees
It won’t happen, though.
I assume you imply that by hijacking a thread and putting in something extra is not good for finding truth?
The said state of Christianity is that both Protestants and Catholics hijack the scripture to teach a point beyond what can be learned from a reading of the scriptures.
We should become students (disciples) of Christ, and study the scriptures, and believe them through the Holy Spirt more than we trust in the men.
Jude 1:3 seems to indicate we should not appeal to “modern” saints.
Not on this thread. This thread is focused on hell.
I think it would be ok.
I see no mention of purgatory in this article. Just repentance. You must repent in this life. The Monsignor makes that very clear.
Apparently not! They just kept on yapping about it. Oh, well! It will be all written down in their book, and Jesus can explain things to them when they have to face Him.
1CO3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1CO3:13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.
1CO3:14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1CO3:15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
God. KING JAMES BIBLE TOUCH - KJV (Kindle Locations 44922-44927). Kindle Edition.
Many people - including me - believe the unsaved are not eternally punished by God but are annihilated, that is, God causes them to no longer exist.
Search online for Edward Fudge’s book “The Fire That Consumes” for more information on this viewpoint.
Excellent point, North Mountain.
**Remember when the Apostles tried to replace Judas Iscariot by giving Elohim two choices to pick from? Well, how did that work out for them? Jesus chose Saul of Tarsus, and we never heard about Matthias again.**
Tried to replace? They did replace Judas, as David prophesied that they would. And they did so with a man that had been one of the followers (but not one of the twelve), “...all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us. Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection”. Acts 1:1,22
As far as there not being any scripture about Matthias after his being chosen, it seems that over half of the eleven are not written about after Acts 1:13. We do see that “...by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people...”. Acts 5:12.
With your seemingly certain opinion of Mattias, are you sure that he was not among the apostles as they performed the signs and wonders?
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