Posted on 11/17/2017 5:18:51 PM PST by marshmallow
ROME, Italy, November 16, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) — Pope Francis’ emphasis on “mercy” over “law” allows him to view a “second marriage” after a first valid marriage in such a way that it is not “characterized continuously as adultery,” suggested a Catholic priest and seminary professor in an article recently published in the Vatican’s official newspaper L'Osservatore Romano.
Father Gerald Bednar, Vice Rector and Professor of Systematic Theology at Saint Mary Seminary in the U.S. Diocese of Cleveland, wrote in an article published November 10 that Pope Francis in his exhortation Amoris Laetitia [Joy of Love] is not trying to “fashion a new doctrine” but to “incorporate a merciful way of applying the law.”
He criticized “dissenters” from Amoris Laetitia who “fail to understand a subtle but important distinction between law and mercy.”
“The issue is not whether divorce is permissible. Clearly it is not. The issue is whether a second marriage must be characterized continuously as adultery. That precise question has not been addressed before, not even in Familiaris Consortio,” wrote Bednar.
The Church, however, following Christ’s words on marriage in the Gospels, teaches that a consummated marriage between a baptized man and woman who have entered the union validly is indissolubility, that is, such a union is unable to be broken by any authority, including the Pope.
Following the Sixth Commandment from God that prohibits adultery, the Church teaches that for a married man or woman to unite sexually with someone who is not his or her spouse constitutes an act, which, in and of itself, independently of circumstances and intentions, is always “gravely illicit by reason of its object.”
“Adultery refers to marital infidelity,” states the Catechism of the Catholic Church. “When two partners, of whom at least one is married to another party, have sexual relations......
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I’m not Catholic so what I’m about to say could be classified as horse hockey but....with money and pull a divorced person can obtain an annulment and remarry. The ordinary Catholic who divorces is committing adults if they remarry. So they drop out. They stop going to church.
As a non-Catholic I can clearly see the moral difference between someone sleeping around when they are married and someone who gets divorced and remarries.
I’ll will be interested in hearing the opinions of Catholic Freepers.
Won’t be long until the Vatican has mercy for women butchering their unborn babies....After all,the women are suffering ...Won’t even have to go to confession regarding the abortion....
Its not a question of money or power. Ordinary Catholics can and do get annulments.
You have to provide reason that a Sacramental Marriage didn't or couldn't exist to a marriage tribunal.
Commandments Bump
I’m Catholic, but not practicing. I am also divorced and would likely be granted an annulment, but I refuse to go though that. God knows the reasons my marriage failed and should I ever get married again, I know God would not consider me an adulterer. I can live without the blessings of the church. I answer to God.
So, if you are not married in the church and you get a divorce and remarry, is it adultery? Serious question. I’m trying to understand
Ergo, Bergoglio is not a Catholic.
Question, would you be a practicing Catholic if your new marriage included the blessing of the church?
I’m glad for your closeness to God, I feel the same way, but I’m beginning to worry that so many are leaving the church. Catholic, Methodist, Lutheran, whatever. I fear for a world that has wandered from God. Those of us who are older were raised with God in every part of our lives. Young people now are rare and extremely lucky if they are raised with a relationship with God.
“I answer to God” won’t do.
God authorized the power of forgiveness to Peter and His Church. Marriage is a sacrament. If you have good grounds for an annulment, then you seek and obtain it. If you think you can live without the “blessings of the Church,” it would be hard to accept how you can still call yourself a “Catholic.” Perhaps without realizing it, you have admitted that you are a Protestant. The only question is what of the 30,000 sects do you belong to?
I don’t care if you don’t like my comment and I am a Catholic.
Pure unadulterated deception. There is absolutely no Scriptural basis that God gave any flesh being or body the power of forgiveness. It is an abomination that any church ignores the miracle that took place while Christ was on the cross.
Matthew 27: 48-54 ended the need for 'blood' sacrifice and a 'priest/preacher/etc' having any conduit directly to Christ. That 'sinner' on the cross sure did not need pomp and pageantry of flesh man to be forgiven.. Why he did not even require a sprinkling of 'holy water'.
48And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink. 49The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him. 50Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. 54Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
Man claimed a power and authority never given by God to any flesh man to absolve any other flesh of their sins.
>>>So, if you are not married in the church and you get a divorce and remarry, is it adultery? Serious question. I’m trying to understand.<<<
That would be correct. Since in the eyes of the Church every marriage enjoys the favor that it is a valid marriage unless it is formally investigated and declared null. Non-Catholic marriages between two non-Catholics (male and female only) are regarded by the Church as valid.
The process of getting an annulment is either simple, or complicated. The simple annulment is granted in not much longer than a month. The Longer one generally takes witness testimony and evidence.
Simple ones can only be granted if one partner was Catholic before marriage, and that Catholic party clearly violated binding requirements which would otherwise become impediments to matrimony. For example, such as not being married by clergy, or in a Church without proper dispensations.
Guess by your lights all those saints, martyrs; theologians, scholars; thousands of converts including many former Lutheran pastors; scholars, and teachers including a former Chief Rabbi of Rome; the President of the Evangelical Theological Society; Judge Robert Bork; Laura Ingraham and a whole list of intellectual luminaries, have all been misled including the early Church fathers some of whom were disciples of St. John.
Your ignorance is both sophomoric and stunning!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_converts_to_the_Catholic_Church
Ephesians 1:4
“According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:”
Any decent student of the Bible knows that “foundation of the world” means katabole .. or the overthrow/casting down of the devil recorded in Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14. The holiest anyone can ever get in this flesh age is in the pure love for the Creator...
IF you ever really studied the Bible the majority have never been on the side of ‘right’ regardless of their man puffed up earthly stature. You are NOT going to like how things turn out. I am well aware of being ignorant on many subjects, but on this, I am NOT willingly ignorant... little Peter speak for you.
I guess you think all the historians, scholars, theologians, saints, martyrs, and thousands of converts many of whom are leading Protestant scholars and historians, and teachers did not read the Bible. The Bible did not drop from the skies and self-arrange itself. They were the product of nearly 300 years of sustained study and discernment of thousands of scripts and fragments checked and cross-checked against the received traditions of the Church. In short, the Church existed before the Bible. The Holy Spirit that guided the Church in assembling the Bible dd not suddenly take off 1100 years later with the curse of Luther’s reformation. End this sophomoric kind of replies you make and stop embarrassing yourself by trying to play the role of a “cut and paste” selective internet theologian taken from anti-Catholic websites.
Before the ‘300’ gathered there was/ is the ignored ‘OLD’ Testament... wherein Christ Himself declared Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
Christ declared this ‘warning’ before the ‘300’ placed their marks of approval... The Old Testament is the bedrock of the New... And my how the wordsmiths added their own two cents down through the ages.
If the ‘new’ kids ignored the WORD already recorded, from which Christ Himself quoted constantly ... then they too are off the map. You are aware that Christ said all but the ‘elect’ would be deceived? Might need to figure out who the already ‘chosen’ set aside ‘elect’ are before you start making claims you have no ability to bring forth... God is in control and things are happening just as HE had his holy prophets pen... Peter called those of the ‘old’ Testament ‘holy prophets’...
It seems to me that Pope Francis has been "corrupted by compassion."
An annulment is granted after testimony is given.
If an annulment is granted on a lie, it remains adultery.
If a bribe is given for the purpose of getting an annulment granted in error, it remains adultery.
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