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To: Steelfish

Check out all the Protestant denominations that DON’T.

Meanwhile there’s cocaine-fueled sodomite orgies in the Vatican.

Jesus said to judge people by their fruits, no pun intended.


324 posted on 11/18/2017 3:24:08 PM PST by Luircin
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To: Luircin; ealgeone; metmom; aMorePerfectUnion

Please separate the individual lives from dogma and Catholic theology. If you are unable to make this simple distinction there can be no dialogue.

Yes, before the Bible, there was the Catholic Church. This Bible you and your Billy Grahams, and Joel Osteens and Benny Hinns keep referring did not fall from the skies and self assemble itself to be picked apart by at the wicked heresy of Luther that dissolved into a 30,00 different sects

Early in the history of the Church, the belief in the Eucharist which is central only to Catholic teaching was propounded by St. Ignatius of Antioch, a disciple of John and St Irenaeus. Apparently some of the folks here keep quoting scripture that are relied upon by the snake handlers in Appalachia.

The seven great letters of St. Ignatius of Antioch, written around the year AD 106 while on his way to Rome to be thrown to the beasts, take for granted the existence of local hierarchical churches, ruled by bishops who are assisted by priests and deacons. Ignatius, a living disciple of John the Apostle, writes that “Jesus Christ...is the will of the Father, just as the bishops, who have been appointed throughout the world, are the will of Jesus Christ. Let us be careful, then, if we would be submissive to God, not to oppose the bishop.”

St. Irenaeus is best known for refuting the Gnostic heresies. Yet he never could have imagined the Protestant heresies that would follow centuries later. But here’s what he wrote barely a century after the death of Christ.

“[Christ] has declared the cup, a part of creation, to be his own Blood, from which he causes our blood to flow; and the bread, a part of creation, he has established as his own Body, from which he gives increase to our bodies.”
Source: St. Irenaeus of Lyons, Against Heresies, 180 A.D.:

http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/father/a5.html

So it’s no surprise if the leading Protestant and Episcopalian theologians and scholars after a life-time of study, teaching and contemplation have converted to Catholicism. Sadly, the rubes still remaining in the empty pews of these Protestant denominations have been left behind to the mercy of semi-illerate corner street churches, not infrequently staffed by ordained married lesbian and homosexual pastors


326 posted on 11/18/2017 3:51:38 PM PST by Steelfish
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