A Most Revealing Photograph

Fatima Perspectives ^ | November 1, 2017 | Christopher A. Ferrara

[ebb tide]

No, Francis is not on Luther’s side.

Sure he is:

Luther and Melanchthon at the foot of the Cross

Antonio Socci on Facebook comments: “The Vatican in a complete mess with its celebration of Luther the Heretic in the  place of Our Lady.  Never-ending shame in the dark age of Bergoglio”

November 1, 2017

“Now there stood by the cross of Jesus, his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalen. When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he saith to his mother: Woman, behold thy son. After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own”. (John 19,25-27).

This is one of the most fundamental moments in the Life of Jesus, the very apex of His redeeming mission. Mary is there and right next to Her is John. From that moment on Mary is the Mother of all those who are to come into the Church: Mater Ecclesiæ, as Paul VI called Her at the closure of the Second Vatican Council.

However,  Holy Mother Church, to commemorate the event of the 95 theses nailed by Martin Luther to the great door of the Wittenberg Church 500 years ago, thought well about issuing a fine stamp, through the Vatican Post Office. It is described like this in the official presentation:

“It depicts Jesus Crucified in the foreground on a gold, timeless background showing Wittenberg city. In an attitude of penance, on their knees respectively on the left and the right of the the Cross, Martin Luther holds a Bible, source and purpose of his doctrine, while Philip Melanchthon, theologian and a friend of Martin Luther’s, one of the most important protagonists of the Reformation, holds in his hand the Augsburg Confession, Confessio Augustuana, the first official exposition of the principles of Protestantism  which were drawn up by him.”

It’s true that we are experiencing a climate of “détente” between Catholics and Lutherans; it’s true that a Catholic Bishop [Galantino] has gone as far as saying that “The Reformation started by Martin Luther 5 centuries ago was an event from the Holy Spirit” but the stamp issued by  the Holy See is truly unusual.

That Holy Mother Church, of which the Virgin Mary is a symbol and model, would produce a stamp with a mosaic created by August von Kloeber in 1851 is a sign of the times. Those two gentlemen at the foot of the Cross, who initiated the Protestant movement, defined Mariology  as “the sum of all heresies”. 

Translation: Contributor, Francesca Romana

Source: http://www.lanuovabq.it/it/lutero-e-melantone-sotto-la-croce

H/T: Antonio Socci, Facebook

[metmom]

hey, it was YOUR college of cardinals who elected him under the alleged guidance pf the Holy Spirit, according to some Catholics.

At least the few who have ever actually answered about whether the Holy Spirit guides the CoC in selection of the new pope.

So I’m going to ask you. Is the College of Cardinals who is the body which selects the new pope, guided by the Holy Spirit? Yes or No?

He’s your pope, like it or not.

[Elsie]

TALK to me!

Dammit!!

[Elsie]

The Roman Catholic Church  has turned the beautiful, blessed lady of Scripture into an asexual, frigid Jewish wife; who withheld her favors from Joseph for no rational reason.

[Elsie]

I know history.

So does the World...

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Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.^[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.^[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.^[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony^[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

[Elsie]

It's all about this protestant pope not responding to legitimate dubias and petitions regarding the Catholic Faith.

Now just WHY would a bunch of good Catholics even VOTE to have him as pope?

[Elsie]

That's cute. A protestant telling a Catholic who is a "catholic" pope.

So's this:

A Catholic telling a Protestants that the powerful in Rome have elected a protestant pope.

[Elsie]

But when y'all bring him up, I'll respond.

Yet you've not responded to the FACTS that I've posted SHOWING what Rome teaches about Mary.

Why is that?

[Elsie]

Speaking of Roman Catholic history...I wonder...

Jesus was walking along one day, when He came upon a group of people surrounding a lady of ill repute. It was obvious that the crowd was preparing to stone her, so Jesus made His now-famous statement, "Let the person who has no sin cast the first stone."

The crowd was shamed and one by one began to turn away. All of a sudden, a lovely little woman made her way through the crowd. Finally getting to the front, she tossed a pebble towards the woman.

Jesus looks over and says, "I really hate it when you do that, Mom."

[aMorePerfectUnion]

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[Elsie]

The Bible portrays the spirit as that of Samuel himself, not a demon...

 

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1 Samuel 28:3-25 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

³ Now Samuel was dead, and all Israel mourned for him, and buried him in Ramatha his city. And Saul had put away all the magicians and soothsayers out of the land.

⁴ And the Philistines were gathered together, and came and camped in Sunam: and Saul also gathered together all Israel, and came to Gelboe.

⁵ And Saul saw the army of the Plilistines, and was afraid, and his heart was very much dismayed.

⁶ And he consulted the Lord, and he answered him not, neither by dreams, nor by priests, nor by prophets.

⁷ And Saul said to his servants: Seek me a woman that hath a divining spirit, and I will go to her, and inquire by her. And his servants said to him: There is a woman that hath a divining spirit at Endor.

⁸ Then he disguised himself: and put on other clothes, and he went, and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night, and he said to her: Divine to me by thy divining spirit, and bring me up him whom I shall tell thee.

⁹ And the woman said to him: Behold thou knowest all that Saul hath done, and how he hath rooted out the magicians and soothsayers from the land: why then dost thou lay a snare for my life, to cause me to be put to death?

¹⁰ And Saul swore unto her by the Lord, saying: As the Lord liveth there shall no evil happen to thee for this thing.

¹¹ And the woman said to him: Whom shall I bring up to thee? And he said, Bring me up Samuel.

¹² And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried out with a loud voice, and said to Saul: Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.

¹³ And the king said to her: Fear not: what hast thou seen? And the woman said to Saul: I saw gods ascending out of the earth.

¹⁴ And he said to her: What form is he of? And she said: An old man cometh up, and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul understood that it was Samuel, and he bowed himself with his face to the ground, and adored.

¹⁵ And Samuel said to Saul: Why hast thou disturbed my rest, that I should be brought up? And Saul said, I am in great distress: for the Philistines fight against me, and God is departed from me, and would not hear me, neither by the hand of prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest shew me what I shall do.

¹⁶ And Samuel said: Why askest thou me, seeing the Lord has departed from thee, and is gone over to thy rival:

¹⁷ For the Lord will do to thee as he spoke by me, and he will rend thy kingdom out of thy hand, and will give it to thy neighbour David:

¹⁸ Because thou didst not obey the voice of the Lord, neither didst thou execute the wrath of his indignation upon Amalec. Therefore hath the Lord done to thee what thou sufferest this day.

¹⁹ And the Lord also will deliver Israel with thee into the hands of the Philistines: and to morrow thou and thy sons shall be with me: and the Lord will also deliver the army of Israel into the hands of the Philistines.

²⁰ And forthwith Saul fell all along on the ground, for he was frightened with the words of Samuel, and there was no strength in him, for he had eaten no bread all that day.

²¹ And the woman came to Saul (for he was very much troubled) and said to him: Behold thy handmaid hath obeyed thy voice, and I have put my life in my hand: and I hearkened unto the words which thou spokest to me.

²² Now therefore hear thou also the voice of thy handmaid, and let me set before thee a morsel of bread, that thou mayest eat and recover strength, and be able to go on thy journey.

²³ But he refused, and said: I will not eat. But his servants and the woman forced him, and at length hearkening to their voice, he arose from the ground and sat upon the bed.

²⁴ Now the woman had a fatted calf in the house, and she made haste and killed it: and taking meal kneaded it, and baked some unleavened bread,

²⁵ And set it before Saul, and before his servants. And when they had eaten they rose up, and walked all that night.

 

[MHGinTN]

‘Where two or more are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them’, is not a proof of Catholic claims that Jesus feeds Catholics His real flesh and blood.

[Elsie]

There are 50 Hail Mary’s for 10 Our Father’s.

More praying to Mary than anyone else.

 

 

 Matthew 6:7 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

And when you are praying, speak not much, as the heathens.

For they think that in their much speaking they may be heard.

[Elsie]

“The Vatican in a complete mess with its celebration of Luther the Heretic in the  place of Our Lady.  Never-ending shame in the dark age of Bergoglio”

Well; too bad!

It started with THIS:

The Vatican in a complete mess with it's celebration of Our Lady.

[Elsie]

The Bible portrays the spirit as that of Samuel himself, not a demon...

Actually; the bible portrays what Saul 'understood'.

The witch said she saw GODS.

So...

...was it REALLY Samuel or not?

[xone]

OMG! How inappropriate that Luther and Melancthon kneel at the cross of their Savior, the source of their Salvation.

[D-fendr]

I agree.

[Mark17]

Now just WHY would a bunch of good Catholics even VOTE to have him as pope?

Define “good Catholics.” 🤯😩🙏🤫

[Elsie]

Are you trying to infer, by extrapolating backward, that anyone who voted for Francis was NOT a good Catholic; or is that something an ex-catholic is not permitted to do.

(although we ALL know there is no sucha thing as an EX-catholic!)

[boatbums]

Do you remember right before he was elected we were discussing the ostentatiousness of the Papal system and wondering if Francis would continue with the luxurious style of past Popes? Several angry RCs strongly defended the right of Popes to live the high life on the members’ dime and castigated non-Caths for DARING to criticize. So, here’s Pope Francis refusing to live in the luxury palace and wear the rich trappings of past Popes, choosing a simpler and more stringent way of life, and he is condemned BY THEM!