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To: ravenwolf

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93 posted on 10/20/2017 4:02:24 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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18 And Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew, and Matthew, and Thomas, and James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus, and Simon the Canaanite,

Jude, Thaddeus, or Lebbeus, son of Alpheus or Cleophas and Mary. He was a brother of James the Younger.

Matthew 27
56 Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedees children.

If it was the mother of Jesus it would have said so like always.

John 19:25
Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.

This was most likely the same Mary as the mother of James and Joses

No where does it mention Joseph or Mary as being the father or mother of these brethren of Jesus, that in its self should be a good clue that in that day of miracles things just did not run their usual course.

I think it should be noted that the Protestant reformers Luther, Calvin, and Zwingli ALL professed to believe in Mary`s perpetual virginity, now it seems they have changed their minds and all they can give is lame excuses.


104 posted on 10/21/2017 10:16:59 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible does not say it in plain words, please don`t preach it to me.)
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