[ravenwolf]

All of the scriptures mentioned refer to his brothers but they do not even indicate that they were the sons of Mary.

Let’s ask this another way, do you think Joseph had sexual relationship with Mary after the birth of Jesus?————————

I am inclined to not believe so, in some apocryphal writings it states that Joseph was forty years old when he married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others;

they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, “the Lord’s brother”).

A year or so later he took Mary as his wife so i doubt very much if they had sexual relations.

If we believe in the virgin birth then we believe God is real, we believe he is our creator from start to finish, we are in his hands.

This little girl was in Gods hands, i can not believe he would dump her out for grabs after she bore his holy child.

Maybe that is wishful thinking but there are no scriptures to refute it as far as i know unless they are just misunderstood.

[HarleyD]

I am inclined to not believe so, in some apocryphal writings it states...

Apocryphal writings are not inspired scripture. So while Jesus raising dead birds to life when He was a child might sound very nice, there is no historical or inspired confirmation about such events. Same with Joseph.

This little girl was in Gods hands, i can not believe he would dump her out for grabs after she bore his holy child.

Mary wasn't dump out for grabs after Christ was born. God doesn't dump any of us out. The honorable Joseph was considering what to do about Mary and his situation when God intervene. Joseph disappears between Christ's twelve birthday and the time they are standing in front of the house. So that would mean at least twelve years (and most likely more) would go by in which time Joseph and Mary would not have sex. I think Elsie brings up a very important verse that would contradict this claim if one considers Joseph to be a righteous man.

Just because one is forty doesn't mean they give up having sex.

[Elsie]

A year or so later he took Mary as his wife so i doubt very much if they had sexual relations.

Based on WHAT?

Did Joe just need someone to make him sandwiches and change the channel?