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Was JPII Under Demonic Influence?
https://akacatholic.com/was-john-paul-ii-under-demonic-influence/ ^ | October 13, 2017 | Louie Verrechio

Posted on 10/14/2017 6:47:59 AM PDT by piusv

Many will see the title to this post and assume that it’s hyperbole. Others, like perhaps most regular readers of this space, will answer the question aloud in the affirmative even before reading what follows.

After all, it certainly wasn’t the influence of Almighty God that moved Pope John Paul II to orchestrate the Assisi events, to take part in pagan rituals, and to publicly pray for the intercession of St. John the Baptist to “protect Islam.”

Even so, the thing that moves me to pose this question here today is a video (below) that a friend recently shared on Facebook. It shows footage of the Polish pope at a gathering with high school students in New York at Madison Square Garden in 1979.

Please, take a look.

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To: independentmind

Did you even read the full article? Because it wasn’t about JPII not being a “perfect human being”. It was a lot more involved than that. It involved his teachings, not just his questionable behaviors.


21 posted on 10/14/2017 7:54:13 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: piusv

I don’t need to read the article.

I am familiar with both the blog it came from, and your posts about Catholicism here on FR.


22 posted on 10/14/2017 7:55:53 AM PDT by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
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To: piusv

I don’t need to read the article.

I am familiar with both the blog it came from, and your posts about Catholicism here on FR.


23 posted on 10/14/2017 7:55:54 AM PDT by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me.)
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To: independentmind

Of course you don’t. The truth might hurt.


24 posted on 10/14/2017 7:56:32 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: ReaganGeneration2

Influence or attack?


25 posted on 10/14/2017 8:05:01 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: piusv

Oh, I see. The mods ought to realize that islam is NOT a religion!!


26 posted on 10/14/2017 8:44:07 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: independentmind

I’m more familiar with Belloc’s sister, Marie Belloc-Lowndes who wrote The Lodger. I’ll have to check him out.


27 posted on 10/14/2017 8:47:23 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: romanesq

I’m not Catholic, but I think JPII was an exceptional man as was Reagan. Thatcher was an exceptional lady.


28 posted on 10/14/2017 8:51:20 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: JPJones

JP2 refused outright to take action when confronted repeatedly by victims of pedophile priests. The people who did not and still do not hold JP2 accountable for that are the exact same people who brought about Communist Pope Francis and every single one of them has echos of that same mentality.

End of story.


29 posted on 10/14/2017 8:55:21 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: miss marmelstein

Tell that non threatening Islam thing to the Christian majority population of Lebanon, who dwelt there before the Islamic war in the late seventies.

You not paying a thimble full of attention to Islam is not in any way, shape, or form the same thing as Islam not being a threat.

Winston Churchill recognized the potential threat in Islam and described it when JP2 was a young man. JP2 knew intellectually what Islam is, but still defended it.


30 posted on 10/14/2017 9:04:14 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: MrEdd

Exactly. If you want to see what the future holds, read up on the history of Lebanon.


31 posted on 10/14/2017 9:05:17 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jess Kitting
I guess you have never heard the expression of friends in high places.

Do you talk to folks in LOW PLACES for help?

Just asking.

32 posted on 10/14/2017 9:07:24 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: Moonman62
Both Pope John Paul II and late President Ronald Reagan had assassination attempts on them in 1981.

The one on Pope John Paul II seemed to be directed by the KGB.

The one on Ronald Reagan was apparently by a crazy person.

33 posted on 10/14/2017 9:11:19 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: piusv
After all, it certainly wasn’t the influence of Almighty God that moved Pope John Paul II to orchestrate the Assisi events, to take part in pagan rituals, and to publicly pray for the intercession of St. John the Baptist to “protect Islam.”

Demonic. God could have used a donkey to bring down Communism. Ecumenism with paganism and Muslims is the same idolatry that destroyed Israel.
34 posted on 10/14/2017 9:29:56 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Fantasywriter
I have wondered why JPII kissed a Koran.

JPII kissed the Koran because his religion was the Religion of Ecumenism which does not come from God.

35 posted on 10/14/2017 9:52:10 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: piusv

Diabolical?

How silly. He was playing along with the excitement and waiting for the teenagers to calm down enough that he could begin without long outbursts interfering with his speaking.

He had been through this before.


36 posted on 10/14/2017 9:57:37 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (CNN IS ISIS.)
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To: piusv

That’s the best explanation I’ve heard. I remember the first time I saw the pic of JPII kissing the Koran. My eyes bugged out of my head. I was more naive then, but I knew that Christians must never give legitimacy to false religions. That hurts everyone. Less mature Christians get the idea that other religions are an acceptable option. The practitioners of false religions are led to believe we approve of their fatal error. In the case of Islam, they can even surmise we condone their slaughter of non-Muslims, etc.

I suppose, it being JPII, no one with any authority or influence ever questioned him on it. That would be a shame. We all need lovingly imparted edification from time to time. For some, it’s harder to come by than for others.


37 posted on 10/14/2017 10:13:21 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Waiting? Sounded more like he much enjoyed it and wanted more. This went on for over 5 minutes.

Just so you know, I don't necessarily think this is evidence that he was under demonic influence. I know that most assume I agree with that because I posted it.

I am much more concerned with his non-Catholic teachings and actions.

38 posted on 10/14/2017 10:26:00 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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To: Moonman62

“JPII was an exceptional man as was Reagan.”

Already there’s a gap in history and the usual Catholic haters here. While the Church has fallen on hard times as Malachi Martin wrote, it will in the end not fall.

The Bible says so and I believe truth will prevail. Unfortunately the story of how Reagan, Thatcher and Pope John Paull II worked to take out the biggest evil in our lifetime has never really been told to the wider public.

A real shame that.


39 posted on 10/14/2017 11:05:37 AM PDT by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)
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To: Jess Kitting
If St. John interceded, that could prove that the pope's prayer was effective.

John the Baptist, if still in bodily form, would rather have his head cut off before praying for the protection of a false, diabolical religion.

So, no, Saint John the Baptist did no such thing.

40 posted on 10/14/2017 12:03:21 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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