Posted on 10/14/2017 3:09:08 AM PDT by topher
During the night of 12-13 October it had rained throughout, soaking the ground and the pilgrims who make their way to Fátima from all directions by the thousands. By foot, by cart and even by car they came, entering the bowl of the Cova from the Fátima-Leiria road, which today still passes in front of the large square of the Basilica. From there they made their way down the gently slope to the place where a trestle had been erected over the little holm oak of the apparitions. Today on the site is the modern glass and steel Capelhina (little chapel), enclosing the first chapel built there and the statue of Our Lady of the Rosary of Fátima where the holm oak had stood.
As for the children, they made their way to the Cova amid the adulation and skepticism which had followed them since May. When they arrived they found critics who questioned their veracity and the punctuality of the Lady, who had promised to arrive at noon. It was well passed noon by the official time of the country. However, when the sun arrived at its zenith the Lady appeared as she had said she would. The following is the conversation between Our Lady and the child Lucy Santos [who later became Sister Lucy]
[Following is conversation that between Lucy Santos [later known as Sister Lucy of Fatima] and Our Lady of Fatima ]
"What do you want of me?" [Lucy Santo talking]
[Our Lady talking] I want a chapel built here in my honor. I want you to continue saying the Rosary every day. The war will end soon, and the soldiers will return to their homes.
"Yes. Yes." [Lucy Santos talking]
"Will you tell me your name?" [Lucy continues]
[Our Lady talking] I am the Lady of the Rosary.
"I have many petitions from many people. Will you grant them?"
[Our Lady talking] Some I shall grant, and others I must deny. People must amend their lives and ask pardon for their sins. They must not offend our Lord any more, for He is already too much offended!
"And is that all you have to ask?"
[Our Lady talking] There is nothing more.
As the Lady of the Rosary rises toward the east she turns the palms of her hands toward the dark sky. While the rain had stopped, dark clouds continued to obscure the sun, which suddenly bursts through them and is seen to be a soft spinning disk of silver.
"Look at the sun!" [Lucy Santos]
From this point two distinct apparitions were seen, that of the phenomenon of the sun seen by the 70,000 or so spectators and that beheld by the children alone. Lucia describes the latter in her memoirs.
After our Lady had disappeared into the immense distance of the firmament, we beheld St. Joseph with the Child Jesus and Our Lady robed in white with a blue mantle, beside the sun. St. Joseph and the Child Jesus seemed to bless the world, for they traced the Sign of the Cross with their hands. When, a little later, this apparition disappeared, I saw Our Lord and Our lady; it seemed to me to that it was Our Lady of Sorrows (Dolors). Our Lord appeared to bless the world in the same manner as St. Joseph had done. This apparition also vanished, and I saw Our Lady once more, this time resembling Our Lady of Carmel. [Only Lucia would see the later, presaging her entrance into Carmel some years later.]
This would be the last of the apparitions of Fátima for Jacinta and Francisco. However, for Lucia Our Lady would return a seventh time, in 1920, as she had promised the previous May. At that time Lucia would be praying in the Cova before leaving Fátima for a girls boarding school. The Lady would come to urge her to dedicate herself wholly to God.
As the children viewed the various apparitions of Jesus, Mary and Joseph the crowd witnessed a different prodigy, the now famous miracle of the sun. Among the witnesses there were the following:
End of Miracle of the Sun, Part I
Miracle of the Sun, Part II [Eyewitness Accounts] will be posted separately
Currently, there are two significant events [recently] that are the hand of God that are important:
1. Earthquake in North Korea
2. Hurricane Ophelia - predicted currently to strike Ireland and Scotland. It is currently scheduled to strike Ireland on the Day of October 16th 2017
The following is the curent track of Hurricane Ophelia. This is updated the United States Hurricane Tracking Center, so after about October 18th, it will probably not be valid.
[NOTE: A Hurricane striking Ireland is an unusual event. Maybe this is a call from God to Christians in Europe.]
From an unwashed neverromancatholic,
Doesn’t it seem ODD, that Catholics, who are so much about exorcisms and somesuch, are discussing “a ghost” and “it’s soothsaying” two weeks before Hallow’s eve?
**Apparition** is another term used by Poe and Lovecraft for ‘ghost’.
I say ‘soothsaying’, because it is the Catholic world, that derides all those Protestant ‘words of the Lord’, ‘witnessing’, and ‘prophesying’.
At least, in all the written records available, the Protestants have not said that ‘an apparition’ told them so.
Happy Hallow’s Eve.
The volcano is Northwest of this area in North Korea with the border of China and Russia.
The Volcano is: Mountain Paekdu
Image of Earthquakes around Nuclear Bomb Test Site in North Korea:http://image.ytn.co.kr/general/jpg/2017/1013/201710131309565561_t.jpg
Note that the above image is from a website that may delete this image... Event Magnitude* Time
6th Nuclear Test 5.7 2017-09-03 12:29
1st Quake 4.4 2017-09-03 12:38
2nd Quake 2.6 2017-09-23 13:43
3rd Quake 3.2 2017-09-23 17:29
4th Quake 2.7 2017-10-13 01:41
* note: magnitudes listed here are from S. Korea's weather agency which are different from USGS estimates which tend to be higher.
* This is from a post by Poster TigerLikesRooster on Freerepublic.com on the first post to the thread:
New tremors felt as EARTHQUAKE hits North Korea test site - Nuclear program AT RISK
A direct link to this post is:
Your reference to EXORCISM indicates the TREE OF BAD FRUIT
Things associated with a miracle would be the TREE OF GOOD FRUIT
The Miracle of the Sun was seen by people in an area 30 miles around Fatima, Portugal.
The event was documented by the two ATHESTIC newspapers in Portugal.
Why? The three children were told that a miracle would happen on October 13th.
Thirty-three years prior to this, Pope Leo XIII had his famous vision
Examples of the TREE OF GOOD FRUIT:
Akita, Japan, where a NUN who was DEAF was healed of her deafness. There were apparitions associated with it.
The MANY, MANY miracles of Lourdes, France where there have been so many miracles that they discard any that have the slightest hint of being able to be explained by SCIENCE.
Finally, the Miracle of the Sun was witnessed by more than 50,000 people (according to secular newspaper accounts.
There were many people healed at this event.
Halloween is the evening before the Christian holy days of All Hallows' Day (also known as All Saints' or Hallowmas) on 1 November and All Souls' Day on 2 November, thus giving the holiday on 31 October the full name of All Hallows' Eve (meaning the evening before All Hallows' Day).
Currently, most people celebrate evil spirits not holy people.
If you dressed up as Saint Francis of Assisi (who San Francisco is named after, you would be celebrating a HOLY PERSON/Holy Spirt.
Angels are also Holy Spirts (Saint Michael the Archangel, Saint Gabriel the Archangel.
The Gospel of Luke starts off with an APPARITION of a WOMAN named MARY by the ARCHANGEL Gabriel.
However, I am getting into an area where FAITH, HOPE, and CHARITY help greatly to understand.
That is the most succinct example of this.
dear topher,
What about that ‘whatsit’ that ‘David’s king’ saw?
Terry
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Dear topher,
re: ‘However, I am getting into an area where FAITH, HOPE, and CHARITY help greatly to understand. ‘
Military veterans know all there is to know about ‘faith’.
Amidst all my morning medications (numbers more than fingers to count), ‘hope’ is to see my adoptive granddaughter - the target of my ‘charity’, graduate high school with letters in cross-country, basketball, and track and field.
Happy Hallowe’en.
Dear topher,
Your view is either AGNOSTIC or ATHESISM.
<< I stated my view as ‘nevercatholic’. >>
<< Notice for all the three places ‘namedropped’, not one of them were the U.S.A. >>
A former landlord’s wife and her sister went to ‘Slovakia’ for Medjurgorye. Said it had as many bazaars set up, as ol’ Salem, MA has during October.
Happy Hallowe’en.
Dear topher,
(Did you know that the urns used to sacrifice babies to Ba’al in the Caananite religion were called ‘tophers’?) Jus’ sayin’.
I don’t read Basque.
re: ‘Thirty-three years prior to this, Pope Leo XIII had his famous vision’
Who d’at? I meant it when I said ‘nevercatholic’, defined by no catholic nothing, no person, no how, no way, no where.
The largish craft did fairly common stuff resulting in the PERCEPTION of the "miracle of the sun."
The personages involved were also somewhat typical critters PLAYING ASSIGNED ROLES to dupe the masses. It seems it worked very well--particularly with a church hierarchy so eager to manipulate and profit from the events.
Sorry. Didn’t see that in the title when I clicked to post.
My reply is longer as a tool to help people spiritually. I would be happy if they convert to Christianity or change their life to be purer and less sinful.
If you had not read it, the book The Small Woman by Alan Burgess. It is the biography and TRUE STORY of Gladys Aylward. It is the story of a woman (non-Catholic, Christian)) who decided she would be a missionary in China (Great Faith). Just buy a one way ticket. Make no plans. Do not learn Chinese. Do not arrange to meet anyone.
This was before World War II but after World War I that she eventually arrived in China.
It is the TRUE story of Glays Aylward.
The book is much better than the movie Inn of the Sixth Happiness, which has a lot of Hollywood fantasies added to it.
One important thing she was able to accomplish was to end the barbaric practice of FOOT BINDING.
I am putting information in this thread for the hope of CONVERSION of SINNERS and CONVERSION to Christianity (we are all one big family, as Jesus said, there will be infighting in this family
I knew a former DELTA FORCES commander. He was able to get great FAITH by at least one incident the HARD WAY.
He lost 30 men because the wind shifted. This was in California.
He had great FAITH and I believe he attends a large BAPTIST church in a large US Metro Area.
Finally, there may be a way to be translated as RADIATION/RADIACTIVE POISONING.
In the Ukrainian Language, Chernobyl means WORMWOOD.
Where does WORMWOOD appear in the Bible? Book of Revelation.
It is about a STAR falling into the sea (bright light, as in Hydrogen bomb (FUSION) or Atomic bomb (Fission))
In those terms, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the two Christian centers in Japan.
In one of them Maximilian Kolbe built a church. He built it such that it was shielded by the PLUTONIUM BOMB explosion.
In the Catholic Church, He is known as Saint Maximilian Kolbe.
Hiroshima has the story of some Jesuits who is considered to have survived the Atomic Bombing. After 1/2 of them were in the area 1 mile from ground zero.
None of them died of cancer. They lived until the 1970's and at that time were examined by a number of scientists.
Please remove my posts from this thread. I didn’t see the Caucus designation when I clicked to post.
Maybe you need to go somewhere else to play.
As for Christopher (aka Topher), it literally means Christ Bearer
The literal meaning of my full name is:
The Christ Bearer who is like God, son of Gift of God.
It is based on three Christian names Christ Bearer, the name of an angel, and the name of an Apostle (as in one of the twelve chosen)
This is a Catholic Thread.
Pope Leo XIII is important in this thread.
The author of the book 1984 decided on his title based on the year he wrote it, 1948.
You need prayers.
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