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To: vladimir998; D Rider
>>“Yep, in 1517 Pope Leo X offered indulgences for those who gave alms to rebuild St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome. Unscrupulous church member Pope Leo X.”<<

Offered. For those who gave alms.

Offered. Gave alms.

No sale.

Thanks for proving my point. The Church did not sell indulgences.

You really don't buy what you wrote do you??

I give the church money, they give an indulgence. Sure sounds like a buy-sell contract to you. You should go write speeches for Bill and Hillary.

49 posted on 10/13/2017 7:08:30 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“You really don’t buy what you wrote do you??”

Indulgences were never authorized to be sold by the Church. NEVER.

“I give the church money, they give an indulgence.”

No. You DONATED money to an indulgence preacher. And that was usually after confession, and permission from your parish priest. If you did all that was required for the indulgence, it was given to you. EVEN IF YOU HAD NO MONEY TO DONATE. The poor were given the indulgence even if they had no donation. That shows there were no sales authorized by the Church. If they were sales, then money would be a necessity.

“Sure sounds like a buy-sell contract to you.”

Not to me. 1) There was more involved than money. 2) The money was clearly a donation. 3) The indulgence was given to the poor even though they had no money. Hence, no sale.

“You should go write speeches for Bill and Hillary.”

Well, since you’re the one who is saying something that is untrue and nonsensical you’re a much better candidate for that role. Follow your programming now.


50 posted on 10/13/2017 7:31:49 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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