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To: SVTCobra03; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
In America today, there are roughly 300,000 churches claiming to represent Jesus Christ, that’s an average of 6,000 churches per state. That’s a lot of churches. So why are so many professing Christians ignorant about the main theme of the Bible? Because there is not one in a thousand that preaches Bible doctrine,...

You are overstating the case and sound cultic. As deficient as that which is called Christianity is, the majority do preach Bible doctrine. overall,

Out of your 3000,000, over 47,000 US churches are part of the Southern Baptist Convention, and profess basic beliefs include anticipating the Lord's second coming, for God "will bring the world to its appropriate end. …Jesus Christ will return personally and visibly…the dead will be raised; and Christ will judge all men in righteousness. The unrighteous will be consigned to Hell. …The righteous… will receive their reward and will dwell forever in Heaven with the Lord."

And we have the Assemblies of God with over 12,000 US church, whose "Statement of Fundamental Truths" states The second coming of Christ includes the rapture of the saints, which is our blessed hope, followed by the visible return of Christ with His saints to reign on earth for one thousand years. This millennial reign will bring the salvation of national Israel and the establishment of universal peace. Numbers and beliefs for others are here .

While I do not believe in the pretrip rapture, but that believers will be resurrected at the end of the Trib, yet these and like churches to teach Bible doctrine overall, and believe in the return of Christ. Which even Catholic profess, despite their traditions and doctrines of men .

48 posted on 10/08/2017 5:31:50 PM PDT by daniel1212 (rust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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To: daniel1212
While I do not believe in the pretrip rapture, but that believers will be resurrected at the end of the Trib, yet these and like churches to teach Bible doctrine overall, and believe in the return of Christ.

I agree. There are variations of end times "timing." The predominant Evangelical view being millennial meaning a literal Kingly rule of Christ on earth for 1,000 years. The differences as you note are in the rapture or harpazo. Is it pre trib, mid trib, pre wrath or post trib/concurrent with the Second Advent of Christ as conquering King.

The view you hold to is what is called the historic millennial view. It was shared by many of the very early church theologians and also in the Didache. That the early church writers were millennial and what was called Chiliasm, the later church deemed heretical. Interesting as some of these early fathers such as Irenaeus were deemed church doctors.

I will add the literal millennial view is not associated with the crack pot time predictors and numerology fads of today.

68 posted on 10/08/2017 9:24:16 PM PDT by redleghunter (Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation)
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To: daniel1212; SVTCobra03; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; ..

Jesus says all of Scripture is about Him. That is what should be preached, from Genesis though Revelation.


94 posted on 10/09/2017 7:16:20 AM PDT by Gamecock ("We always choose according to our greatest inclination at the moment." R.C. Sproul)
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To: daniel1212

LCMS churches too. We confess our faith in the Apostles or Nicene Creed every week, both of which include Jesus’ return.

I wonder how much of this is angst over the last end of world prediction failing two weeks ago.


130 posted on 10/10/2017 9:39:55 AM PDT by Luircin
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