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To: daniel1212
Scripture does teach this sacramental meaning, since Christ in John 6 was not just talking about His words or even His spirit, but, specifically, His Body and Blood. It's this incarnational aspect to which I would respectfully draw your intention.
186 posted on 09/19/2017 10:06:39 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stand fast and hold the traditions ye have been taught, whether by word or our epistle. 2 Thess 2:15)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Scripture does teach this sacramental meaning, since Christ in John 6 was not just talking about His words or even His spirit, but, specifically, His Body and Blood. It's this incarnational aspect to which I would respectfully draw your intention.

Once again, your assertion is refuted by what I provided, and is contrary to what the Holy Spirit, abundantly shows spiritual life-giving "meat and drink" to be, and the use of metaphorical language - which John especially uses - and how the NT church understood the gospels , and who never presents the Lord's supper as a sacrifice for sin by the hands of Catholic priests whereby souls obtain spiritual life, or as essential for obtaining it.

Only the metaphorical understanding easily conforms to the rest of Scripture, and does not require resorting to Neoplatonic thought and Aristotelian metaphysics to explain and rationalize a christ who by all evidences of matter is mere bread but "really" is the true and proper and lifegiving flesh and blood of Christ, corporeally present whole and entire." which is more akin to a Gnostic or Docetist Christ which was not what he appeared to be. to be.

188 posted on 09/19/2017 10:44:25 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + folllow Him)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
...Christ in John 6...

In for a penny;
in for a pound.

199 posted on 09/19/2017 12:23:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; daniel1212; aMorePerfectUnion; ealgeone
Scripture does teach this sacramental meaning, since Christ in John 6 was not just talking about His words or even His spirit, but, specifically, His Body and Blood. It's this incarnational aspect to which I would respectfully draw your intention.

Bear with me...I'm just wondering...if it truly is the receiving of the body and blood of Christ that imparts eternal life, then why couldn't a non-Catholic participate? Don't Catholics desire that all people attain salvation? If the bread and wine ("properly" confected) are the literal flesh and blood of Christ, then it shouldn't matter whether or not one believes they are or represent them, should it? Where does Scripture tell us that everyone must first belong to a church in order to receive Christ?

After all, it is faith IN Jesus Christ that places us into the BODY of Christ, His bride, His called-out ones.

236 posted on 09/19/2017 8:45:18 PM PDT by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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