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To: af_vet_1981
1Co 9:23-27 I do it all for the sake of the gospel, that I may share with them in its blessings. Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one receives the prize? So run that you may obtain it. Every athlete exercises self-control in all things. They do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. So I do not run aimlessly; I do not box as one beating the air. But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Paul is not talking about the lost of his salvation. He is talking about being disciplined enough to run the race. If one cannot be disciplined in the things of God, we will be ineffective and useless to the cause of Christ. People will see how we are living and our witness is worthless. Moreover it bring reproach upon the body of believers. We are disqualified or castaway from the ministry of God.

How many preachers (and priests for that matter) have we witnessed this occurring? Do you think a pediophile priest (or pastor) will ever be an effective witness for the cause of Christ again? They don't endanger their salvation but they certainly endanger their ministry and the ministry of others.

154 posted on 09/04/2017 2:15:39 PM PDT by HarleyD ("There are very few shades of grey."-Dr. Eckleburg)
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To: HarleyD
Paul is not talking about the lost of his salvation. He is talking about being disciplined enough to run the race. ...

No, castaway =
adokimos: failing to pass the test
Original Word: ἀδόκιμος, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: adokimos
Phonetic Spelling: (ad-ok'-ee-mos)
Short Definition: failing to pass the test
Definition: failing to pass the test, unapproved, counterfeit.


Check the eight occurrences of this word and see how fatal it is.

It is the same word from the second epistle used ( and translated as reprobate) here:

Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates.

Second Corinthians, Catholic chapter thirteen, Protestant verses five to six,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

156 posted on 09/04/2017 6:29:04 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: HarleyD
... They don't endanger their salvation but they certainly endanger their ministry and the ministry of others.

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Matthew, Catholic chapter eighteen, Protestant verses six to nine,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James

157 posted on 09/04/2017 6:33:05 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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